Who Runs The World? Apparently This Guy. Meet Reference Man | Full Frontal on TBS

Published on June 18, 2020

In a world built by men, for men, “Reference Man” represents the standard body which things like CPR dummies, seatbelts, and PPE are created for. What could go wrong? Amy Hoggart investigates.

This piece was produced by Todd Bieber with Annie Kopp and edited by Andrew Mendelson.



  • Run De McCea 3 years ago

    Amy Hoggart keeps me sane. But also angry. But also sane.

  • Stephen White 3 years ago

    5’9″ and 155# isn’t a man. It’s a jockey.

  • New Message 3 years ago

    So.. not the next Marvel franchise, then…

  • Use2Earn Make Money Online Platform 3 years ago

    hello there friend!

  • kght222 3 years ago

    you got a thumbs up because this is actually why there weren’t space suits available to do what they wanted to do. they just didn’t think they needed two smalls at once, so there was one small on the station.

  • Gaasuba Meskhenet 3 years ago

    Maybe we should make sure people can survive without a job so they can quit if they see these failings in their workplace

  • Fly Vegan 3 years ago

    Reference man privilege.

  • Ruben Mendoza 3 years ago

    Amy 😍

  • Alex Hamilton 3 years ago

    Yup true. Just add a bit more fuel to this story. In the 1970s the director J L Godard refused to use Kodak while filming somewhere (can’t quite remember which country) in the continent of Africa because the film itself was racist….Kodak film was keyed to a white woman’s skin tone average, and so shot all “black brown” etc skin tones as the same or not very well. The Apartheid South African police had to later have specially modified film to record their own majority…

  • Yeong Ben Ngeow 3 years ago

    Reference man is not only a danger to Caucasian women, but also non Caucasian everyone else. Because the standard person is assumed to be on average the size and shape of the average Caucasian male, many non-Caucasian males are also in danger, as we are on average smaller, and/or slimmer than a Caucasian.

  • karl 3 years ago

    I highly recommend Invisible Women, a fantastic, eye-opening book. Loved this segment.

  • Peggy Newvine 3 years ago

    Not one place I have ever lived had a kitchen that did not give me a backache, counters are too tall! Also most furniture is built for someone about 6′-6’2″.

  • Jim Smedley 3 years ago

    I like this video. I’m sharingi it with my school’s PHE dept.!

  • kinn grimm 3 years ago

    Using averraged out white male body values for anyone does not sound very scientific at all.
    Come now we can do better.

  • Vitaddict Dad 3 years ago

    The number of unseen biases built into society at the base level never cease to astound me

  • JCBs At the helm 3 years ago

    Sadly the men who manage the world would rather destroy it than share it

  • 4one14 3 years ago

    Wow…Dr Fatima Cody Stanford has more letters behind her name than in it, even with a relatively long name!
    (18:26 letters in name vs honorific titles)

  • Amethyst Samia 3 years ago

    I had never thought of this before now but now I realize it’s absolutely true. And it’s typical. I’m not surprised at all by it. Men “rule” the world…no wait…it’s the hand that rocks the cradle. Truly. 😁😁😁

  • Beretta249 3 years ago

    Pretty sure asserting women have specific physiological characteristics makes you a TERF worthy of J.K. Rowling.
    Of course you’re also factually correct.

  • Rosemary Walter 3 years ago

    While I do not detract from the seriousness of the materials represented here I also see this video as a very good teaching tool for those among us who do not see privilege, systemic bias (racism, male chauvinism), and the need for diversity in voices at any given table to create the best solutions. The good news of Amy Hoggart surviving the chocolate incident. That bright spot will get me through today. Thanks for a great lesson.

  • Gwen Parker 3 years ago

    Women are left out of medical studies because periods are too difficult.

  • Jermany X 3 years ago

    So we just need a reference person? Or persons…

  • Brian Cossey 3 years ago

    It’s a huge problem but it is caused by both men and women

  • just me 3 years ago

    I watched this clip and was dumbfounded, probably, being male, shorter, heavier and older than reference man never thought about it. Showed the clip to my wife and SHE hadn’t thought about it. Certainly an awakening for both of us. Thank you.

  • Joe 3 years ago

    Let’s not forget that crash test dummies can cost upwards of $500K. Not saying it’s an excuse, but it can definitely be a deterrent, even for companies with a multi-billion dollar AGR. GM claims to be using 200+ dummies of all shapes and sizes now, so…

  • Peter didn't pick a pepper. But 2. 3 years ago

    cpr thing makes sence and is horrifying at the same time on many levels, personal and otherwise.

  • Fbjdhxh Hfifnhhc 3 years ago

    Wow, reference eye opener man

  • Rachelle Olson 3 years ago


  • LastTempoInParis 3 years ago

    Hey women ! isn’t “reference-man” handsome, rich and intelligent in your wildest expectations ? 😄

  • frankiezmt 3 years ago

    I like the ending most! tRump, the egoistic man with the reference man behind him.

  • kassia pencek 3 years ago

    Wow I needed this coin concept!!! Thank you brave ones!

  • Jayantika Soni 3 years ago

    Thank you for the video, I’ve read about it, heard on podcasts but the visuals definitely help. This needs to change not just in terms of physical characteristics but often medicine dosage and clinical trials have limited group, often mostly “reference men” too.

  • RIPapa 3 years ago

    reference guy is small


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