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Caitlin Flanagan and Bret Stephens join Bill Maher to discuss the impact of private schools on the American education system and the "climate of fear" facing parents.
Find Real Time with Bill Maher on HBO GO® http://itsh.bo/iioY87.
It's HBO.
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Caitlin Flanagan and Bret Stephens join Bill Maher to discuss the impact of private schools on the American education system and the “climate of fear” facing parents.
Find Real Time with Bill Maher on HBO GO® http://itsh.bo/iioY87.
It’s HBO.
You should look at Ireland. Private schools are able to get access to the corona vaccine ahead of people who actually need it!
How cool is that?!
ReplyWait is that table broken?
ReplyIf you want to change the educational system, vote for a President that facilitates that change.
ReplySorry but people have a right to send their kids to whatever school they want and if they can afford a better school and it gives their kids an advantage then it is what it is….
ReplyI thought the title said Public schools. That’s where the indoctrination is.
ReplyWhat a joke all of America is indoctrination.
ReplyLike Critical Race Theory – pure leftist trash and propaganda. It damages kids irreversibly.
ReplyI won’t go back into ANY educational, human services or government institution until woke dissapears. It’s rife…it’s nut’s, it’s Maoist Stuggle Sessions
I will do labour
ReplyGood discussion but I’m not sure if Caitlin understands the term Marxism. I think she meant crony capitalism.
ReplyAll kids are born atheist and it takes years of indoctrination to make them believers. Furthermore, why worry about parents losing their voice in the public schools when the childfree taxpayer has no voice at all?
ReplyI’d be willing to bet that this guy who was “educated” about Marxism, was really Indoctrinated with Anti-Marxism at his fancy Massatwoshits private school.
ReplyThis is not going to end soon. It wont be over until the genocide burns out. Because mass murder is what the Left wants. And historically they normally get it.
ReplyBill Maher talking on this?
ReplyIt would be really interesting to hear a perspective on education from actual educators, rather than from journalists who haven’t been in a classroom since they graduated from school themselves.
ReplyI love how they complain about indoctrination in schools without naming the things they feel teaching qualifies as indoctrination. It’s almost as if… they actually can’t defend their argument.
ReplyMost degrees are bs. We should be valuing real work like plumbers, electricians, welders more than some liberal arts bs.
ReplyGod bless and protect all our children. In Jesus Christ name I pray Amen Amen Amen
ReplyThese people missed the 17 Red state teachers that protested b/c conservative schools are horrid and disrespectful. Bush & Trump, their stupidity led to more deaths than almost any other world leader. Bravo!
ReplyPublic schools are indoctrinating the kids. Look at these psycho angry young people.
ReplyTrump called this indoctrination out and was trying to fix it by the way
ReplyThe solution must involve more freedom. Private schools, charter schools, even home schooling. Every totalitarian state forces parents to hand over their children to the state, aka to public schools. Less, not more government oversight is needed.
ReplyWhat are they talking about here? Rich kids are indoctrinated with marxism in fancy schools and their parents, who pay 50K a year for that, are afraid to challenge it? Excuse me but what the fuck?
ReplyClaiming Marxism can only be afforded to kids of billionaires as they are the only ones who can live it is simply propaganda. sounds like the panelist got a rather expensive indoctrination !
If the kid of a billionaire was a true Marxist , they wouldn’t be rich for long as they would have to share !
ReplyReally? Rich Marxists are indoctrinating your kids? Guess the brain worms have been brought back to the Green Room at Real Time.
ReplyBoomers
ReplyLove your recent content.
ReplyCait is awesome. First heard the term “identify politics” from here on this segment years ago
ReplyI think Bill got it wrong (~1:50), and it seemed like an un-Bill thing to say. It isn’t that parents are afraid to go against the schools, it’s that schools are so afraid of angering parents that they can’t take a position on anything because it will piss somebody off. Forget morality choices. The schools try to be everything for every student, including largely just acting as daycare centers, so they end up being one size fits nobody. Then they shove a teacher in a classroom with 35 kids coming from 35 different directions and just say , “Handle it. All children want to learn. Just get them to engage by“.
In the state of Georgia, you can’t really have an ‘advanced’ public school in a field… one where students have to show an aptitude and history of willingness to work in a given area, and are sent back to ‘the minors’ if they can’t cut it – you know, like MIT and Cal Tech. If I wanted to open a science academy devoted to the students showing science aptitude and ready to take it past the ‘next level’, then I have to let anyone enroll in the name of tax payer fairness including students that have shown lackluster performance in the science classes they have already taken, or are even special needs. Now my school becomes about remediation and funneling resources to students who shouldn’t be there instead of using those resources to take top students farther. I’d have to hire teachers with wokeness training and BS degrees in Education instead of PhDs in Physics! Of course special needs exist in science, but let’s have a school targeted for that – where hiring that 1-in-a-million science teacher with a PhD who can speak Esperanto and knows how to sign to serve that small slice of student need makes sense. Even if he doesn’t make that much money, he’d be happy to take the job since he’d only have 5 students in his classes. On the other end of the spectrum, you can’t really have a school devoted to students with special needs – say reading below level – because it isn’t fair to make someone agree to being labelled as ‘below level’ by walking into your school’s doors. So instead, I now have someone who can’t really read in an “on level” Chemistry class that as a group is struggling largely because they don’t do the assigned reading, and my speeches about ‘reading more each night’ earn me constant complaints from the single parent of the kid who struggles to read at all, and now the school admin sweeps in to make me the bad guy unless I stay after school for 3 extra unpaid and unavailable hours to help that kid. But that’s okay, because even though I have a PhD in Chemistry, I used my oodles of spare time to take courses in remedial reading education even though I have no interest in that, and I also have a degree in child psychology and early learning development… it goes on an on.
Private schools can get around that – what we need are states to grant vouchers so everyone can attend a school that fits their needs. Then public schools would have to take their heads out of their six holes to get their hands on that money. Without such voucher money, innovative or targeted schools can’t exist except as expensive private ‘academies’ where parents demand ‘A’s for their money, or the school is a conclave of religious zealots willing to pay so their students can be taught creationism and flat Earth physics. Imagine if MIT had to let anyone enroll, you’d get Cambridge Community College.
The sad thing is that the money is already being paid in taxes if we educators (yes I’m a teacher) and especially “education designers” would just start being smart. If able teachers are hard to find, it isn’t because of the salary, even though teachers massively deserve more pay. It’s that those with real talent, creativity and passion for their field can’t take the idiocy and bureaucracy that is public education. And the ones who give it a shot are immediately told things like, “We have a problem, and it’s going to take out-of-the-box thinking to solve” and simultaneously things like, “Oh no no… we don’t do things that way. There’s a procedure and three forms for that”.
Okay… I’m back. Had to de-pressurize.
ReplyU.S SCHOOLS IS MORE ABOUT BRAINWASHING ITS CITIZENS THAN ACUAL EDUCATION. THE’RE BRAINWASHED INTO ACCEPTING THAT ALL COUNTRIES OF THE EARTH ARE BENEATH THE U.S.
ReplyYES!!!
ReplyWtf? You can’t called it indoctrination if you willingly put your kids to a private school. I get it when everyone said that education system is broken, but it’s mostly on public schools who its teachers never get any competition in the first place. In the private schools, you literallu can choose on which schools your kid want to go. How is that indoctrination?
Reply2:32 I think he’s wrong when it comes to Indoctrination. It is something which has to be used in some instances, especially in the History/Human Health Courses. Where Schools tend to leave out important aspects of American life as an adult. For instance: Having Students understand what slavery is. Sure, reading what the experience of living as a Slave can educate Students. But being immersed in the subject by watching the film _Roots_ shows what slavery was in America spanning multiple generations.
ReplyAnd Civic courses need to be a required course in High School Curriculum Nationally in order to graduate.
Students _need_ to see *how babies are made,* as well as having to deal with the responsibilities of caring for one (infant doll/sensors). Along with methods of birth control, other than covering a cucumber with rubber as the only means for prevention.
I’m not saying Students shouldn’t be able to think for themselves. On the contrary, I feel independent thought is crucial to obtaining valuable life skills e.g. self-discipline, temperament, critical thinking, among others.
I disagree with Bill Maher about many things, but on this issue, we are 100% in agreeance.
ReplyWait when was school about education? What bullshit. I am sick of back in my day arguments
Reply300yrs of talking about WE.
Woke is a thing for Black Folks to not be asleep in this Society!
Bill hatred of the Word tell his Age and his Station of Whiteness in the USofA
ReplyBoth the NYT and the Atlantic are full of woke writers and pseudo-Marxist social justice warriors. I wonder if the self-awareness and confidence of Caitlin Flanagan and Bret Stephens is because they are senior in their jobs and are not afraid of being cancelled
ReplyNote how eagerly both guests insinuate Marxist indoctrination, but what about status-quo capitalist indoctrination? Just because one is ‘normal’ for us does not mean we oughtn’t be equally as critical of it as we are of alternative ideologies. Their preferred ‘education’ on economic ideologies seems like the ‘education’ on world religions that you’d get from a Catholic school.
Reply2+2=5
ReplyThese people have never read Marx clearly.
ReplyFinally, the Woka Cola you all have been drinking is starting to work. Marxism is an insidious creature, the genesis of which stems from abject tyranny and totalitarianism, the very thing our Founding Fathers were revolutionized against. When the founding members of BLM admit they are Marxist trained, it’s clear that they are working to divide America, not to unite us. Marxists divide by class (e.g. proletariat vs bourgeoisie) and the new Marxism of the elite and Ivy League is teaching our future leaders to divide based on racial distinctions. Open your eyes to this and be truly “woke.” A house divided cannot stand.
ReplyI love how abstract this issue is. Nobody ever comes up with examples, it’s just buzz words and fear mongering. I suspect most people just like to grab onto these quotes because they don’t like their kids being taught that the civil war was about slavery.
ReplyStep one: check the calendar. We are 20% through the 21st century, but weighed down by those who can not accept that the 1950s are long gone. Eyes on the road ahead, please.
ReplyHow long till Bret Stephens loses his job at the NYT when his woke colleagues hear about what he thinks?!
ReplyWell, sure there are a lot of problems in the education system of the US, but kids of billionaires becoming hyper-marxist does not seem to be one of them. Hyper-capitalism surely is waaaaaaaaaaaaay more of a problem.
ReplyCan one guest on the show ask BIll to define ‘woke’, just one time? He’s as lazy with that phrase now as he has been endlessly in the past with ‘racist’.
ReplyJust broad catch-all phrases under which he can sweep all sorts of perceived ills, and, of course virtue-signal his superiority in having identified this undefined thing and taking his brave stance against it from his cushy hollywood studio. Perhaps Biden can give him the Presidential Medal of Freedom so he can rightfully stand with those other brave warriors of our time, Limbaugh, Nunes & Jordan.
public schools … education or indoctrination?
ReplyHome schooling is becoming much more appealing and plausible these days.
Replycmon, marxism from a different perspective? what? by wearing a private school uniform?? mediocrity woke lives. elon musk didn’t go to private school, he created his own education system.
ReplySpending lots of money doesn’t make you smarter. Intelligence is natural either you got it or you don’t. These schools are designed to keep the status quo by fooling people into thinking more money means their kids will learn better. They won’t. There is not one school who can guarantee that if you go here you will be smarter. All it says is I am rich and I should be in the rich club. Lets just do away with the people who enforce and believe this. Enough greed and status quo time to bring them down and eat them. These rich people are killing us and laughing about it. They are weak and fat. The pigs are ready for slaughter.
Replybad parents are part of the problem. Solve that first
ReplyAstounding silence in the room 😀
Replywhat is “woke” ?
ReplyWonder how much the unions is paying this nuts.
ReplyYou want parent involvement? On that extreme you end up with creationists… There must be balance and Moderation
Replypublic gov run school is a brainwash
ReplyIndoctrinated prior school. Indoctrinated prior birth. First Indoctrinate the parents, children raised in a privileged Indoctrinated household. Choice, authoritarian or humanitarian. What degree?
ReplyIf you happen to agree with Bari “Netanyahu Toadie” Weiss your answer is wrong.
ReplyFor a person to think that the problem in schools (the private ones) is “marxist indoctrination”, that person has to be VERY disconnected from reality. This is looking like Fox News paranoid shit. That paranoid, resentful and baseless chatter about “uuuuh the elites”, “uuuuh, cultural marxism”. Please, people!
Do you realize that if the point was “marxist indoctrination”, this discussion about private schools would not even exist? Gosh, I sometimes think that some people pride themselves on being stupid.
You cannot blame any attempt to make progress in “marxist indoctrination”. Have more brain than that.
ReplyYeah. Riiiiiiight. Elite private schools are producing Marxists, not money-obsessed, would-be Masters of the Universe ready to scrap democracy for oligarchy. Yeah. Yoooge problem. Wow.
ReplyBill is tackling this issue on a weekly basis now. I say hear, hear. The woke have overplayed their hand, and we are DONE.
Reply“That’s how rich you have to be for marxism to actually work for you as a theory”. Lady, you’re actually describing capitalism.
ReplyNever realized there was a national agenda to determine who makes it big in the world starting with private schools and colluding with Ivy leagues. The American Dream is thriving!!
ReplyCleverly used the term private schools. Look at pubilc schools and how they have become worst over the years.
ReplyKids are being indoctrinated with Marxism? No, that assertion is right-wing propaganda. Also, Bari Weiss — if that’s the author being quoted — engaged in sloppy journalism and had to resign from the NYT.
ReplyPublic schools are the largest indoctrination camps in history. This woman is completely backwards. We should abolish high schools.
ReplyMake colleges and universities accountable for outcomes and student loan debt.
ReplyWhen Bill gets it right he really gets it right!
ReplyAt first I thought this woman would be against private schools existing and then she went on to complain about kids of billionaires becoming marxists lol…this is the strangest conversation ever
ReplyWhat the fuck happened to Bill Maher. He has the worst takes, constantly.
ReplyCuba is marxist, have one of the best healthcare systems in the world, no one works more than 8 hours a day, everyone has access to food, housing, etc. if they were not sanctioned by the US and rest of its allies they would also be enjoying other products they currently don’t get. Seems good to me.
ReplyPublic schools: They just indoctrination.
Reply“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” – Isaac Asimov
ReplyWow, you know the “Woke” are in trouble when even people like Bill Maher are getting WOKE to them.
ReplyWow I’ve never went from total agreement to complete disgust at what they were saying as fast as in the middle of this video. What kind of potent shit do you have to be smoking to think that private schools for billionaires are teaching kids to be Marxists. I guess one thing the libs and the conservatives can agree on is that “Marxist” just means the opposite of whatever you believe in.
ReplyFinland banned private schools so all of the countries’ resources could benefit all its students. Private schools help to create greater inequality within the our country.
ReplyDefinitely sending my kids to private school
ReplyGoin after the commies hell yeah!
ReplyAlternative universe irony personified.
ReplyShe disparages private schools be focusing on the 1% highest most expensive schools. Private schools actually can provide better education for lower income and minority students.
Ironically these uber high-end schools are super woke to the point where they are starting to purposely reduce teaching for “equity”. The crazy thing is that Atlantic has been corrupted by the same woke-rot, their previously high reputation sliding as they release some content either laughably woke or downright inaccurate. See the case where Atlantic author claims she saw a school–mate shot by cop, turns out not true.
I used to read Atlantic, really said seeing their decline.
What is really disappointing is at ~4:15 she has to bend the knee to the woke idol. No kids demonstrating for “social justice” in name of avowedly marxist and violent group is not good. Note that We don’t even know if G Floyd was murdered yet – trial not done.
ReplyWoke thinking is Dangerous
Replyand a miseducation
Maher is becoming more suspicious of his left leaning identity now that it’s being implemented…Is it too late.
ReplyThis segment does not make sense to me. Seems all over the place. I studied economics. Economics has a free market bias smaller government bias in the way the textbooks teach it. I never even learned anything about Karl Marx in economics. So how is it okay to push neoclassical and classical economic thought, but when you bring up critiques to capitalism then you are pushing marxism. At the end of the day school indoctrinates you to believe something. I did not question the economics field until I left it. Because it validated it is own perspective and did not critically give me the skills to question if anything about it is empirical data or just ideology. *Textbooks did have sections at the end of the chapter stating that certain theories are not backed by ample evidence in the real world, but that was not the focus in the class but more there for people who really dive deep into the literature provided. Even one of my grad professors would say this is not actually true in the real world when he was teaching, but then why isn’t the textbooks making it clear these are not theories making sense of actual real world scenarios. I am tired of people throwing out the word indoctrination. You will be taught something skewed in a certain direction no matter where you go, the difference is if we as a consensus decided if it is beneficial to society at large.
ReplyBret Stephens? Really? Really Bill Maher?
What I find disgusting is how vague and inspecific these accusations are. Not one specific example of a teacher or school system that is indoctrinating students and not teaching them how to think. Not one. Only vague airy statements about how “terrible” or “tragic” the non specific complains are. No data, no specific incident, nothing that would elucidate what exactly is happening to students that the schools are doing. Yet on such vague nebullous statements these people say “disgusting” ??
This whole five minute bullshit attack on some amorphous thing is disgusting. Bret Stephens is disgusting. His antics at the NYT are downright authoritarian “indoctrination” in it’s own right, so how interesting it is that that word came out of his own mouth.
People who do the dance for the pay masters have to speak this way because they can’t have self-reflection when they intuit what they need to do in order to get paid for their position in the corporate media news frame.
Really Bill Maher? What does it say about you when you give these sorts of charlatans a platform?
ReplyGet rid of the high stakes tests every year that waste so much learning time and make the testing companies richer and richer.
ReplyOur schools today are 80% babysitters, 15% indoctrination, 5% learning. Welcome to the Idiocracy
ReplyThank you for talking about this. It seems that most media platforms (aside from conservatives being painted as racist conspiracy theorists) are turning a blind eye to it. But I think private schools are fine. Private and charter schools are one of the only ways for a parent to combat the public school indoctrination.
ReplyI am a teacher – Bill you are right!
ReplyI bet private schools don’t have police in the schools slamming children to the ground or hand cuffing second graders !
ReplyIf had schools & universities that actually indoctrinated people from a marxist perspective we wouldn’t be in this position in the first place.
ReplyI am sorry… but what threats from being woke? What they are talking about is so vague, it has no meaning. Give some specific course of actions being taken that you are objecting to and please state how many schools this action is being implemented in. I have no idea what specific issue they are referring to. And where is this indoctrination? What was ONE teacher complaining about? That they wouldn’t let him teach creationism in science class, or was it they wouldn’t let him teach civics? 2 entirely different things. This conversation was meaningless without context.
ReplyWhat are some of the disgusting ideas being taught in public schools? I need links or the shit coming out of your keyboard is fake news/opinion/rumors.
ReplyMany that show up on Bill’s show do believe in God. They just don’t admit it! And many of them don’t believe that we originated from slime, period. My wife went to a private christian school in which creationism was taught, thank God!
ReplyI will educate my children anyway i choose. Try and fucking stop me.
ReplyThe elites who go to Ivy League Schools are from the rich families. Biden didn’t and guess who’s President. I graduated HS at 15 yrs old. Jared Kushner graduated Harvard and is as dumb as dirt.
ReplyThought it was Nina Hartley
ReplyI am on the board of a private school in New England. Believe me they are the farthest thing from being Woke. They teach critical thinking and the ability to reason through an issue.
ReplyOnly true “liberal” on TV.
ReplyNo one has any values they can stick to anymore. Even gangsters are pillars of society if they are rich enough
ReplyAnd you think that public schools don’t have specific indoctrination as well?
ReplyIndoctrination of our children is the biggest problem in our country hands-down. The government run indoctrination centers, excuse me, public schools are a breeding ground to produce woke idiots.
Replydoes she want to end colleges and university for their overwhelming left wing bias?
ReplyPublic education is fueled by a spirit of Marxism. Bolshevik loving social engineers living off the public for far too long.
ReplyCorrupt prep schools send corrupted students to corrupt universities like Harvard who send them on to further corrupt the media and government. Thank you, Caitlan and Bret, for standing up, as always, against the corruption.
ReplyThis was a dumb discussion which is disappointing because Caitlyn’s article was a good article but Bret Stephens and Bill don’t have a clue in what they are talking about. Education and indoctrination is such an easy and lazy way to discuss it because there is no all encompassing way we educate in this country. Education varies from state to state from county to county from city to city from district to district. One district will take the state’s curriculum and will do it one way while another district only a few miles away will do some things similar but not the same. Schools also have their own personalities and cultures and all of that is missing in this discussion. Schools in Kentucky are not teaching woke though you might find a few who are, some schools in California may but not all, governing boards have a ton of power and their power is derived from the community they live in so one district may be more liberal while another district 10 miles east might be super conservative. Private schools are also every bit as diverse with one school maybe more liberal where another school is preaching the Bible. While they are on the right idea of teaching students how to think they still fall back on the same tired discussions of what is going on in education and generalizing despite the fact there is no general way of doing things in this country in regards to education.
ReplyI don’t know what Bill thinks anymore, he’s got Biden brain.
ReplyGod bless good caring Teachers that want children to learn and be successful in life.
ReplyConservative Republicans have been talking about this for years. Now Bill Maher finally bring it up and it gets applauded….but I am glad Bill Maher is talking about it.
ReplyThe only ones who support being woke, social justice warriors, and cultural appropriation are self entitled, narcissistic, whiny, hyper sensitive brats
ReplyBill Maher is a loser. It’s called choice instead of indoctrination. Right? My body, my choice.
ReplyPreachers/priests should be *BARRED* from *ALL* schools!
ReplyPublic schools……., your title is incorrect.
ReplyCaptains of Hyperbole! They actually think Marxism is being taught in public schools. They only say the words Marxism, but not what Marxist thought is being taught. Corporatism/Cronyism is being taught. Fund the public schools and then whine to us about indoctrination.
ReplyDouble Speak or talking out of the sides of their mouths? Which angle ae they working? Are they talking about Marxist liberals teaching our kids or are they referring to a Constitutional doctrine?
Reply. the purpose of education in America is to help make more slaves and less rebels, which is a reflection of the American political establishment- Democrats, Republicans and the 1% who own everything, including the political parties. ” the crisis of humanity is the crisis of leadership” Leon Trotsky
ReplyNeo Marxism is absolutely taught in Universities and high schools in the forms of postmodernism and critical race theory.
ReplyI feel the same way about public schools and universities. Public sector crony corporatism at it’s worst. A near monopoly on the psyche of the nation that fails perpetually up at the extortion of the citizen.Too big to fail. If you can’t at least meet half-way at school choice then don’t pretend to have an legitimate interest in helping the vulnerable and the young.
ReplySame problem in the UK.
ReplyI go to a private school, and it’s better than every school in my area. The parents actually do care about what the students learn. The school I go to is nothing like what they are describing here, but some schools are definitely like this
ReplyNice job Bill. Keep it up, we need it.
ReplyWhat’s happening in pricey private schools, as far as I can tell, is an indoctrination into classic elitism, not some reverse Marxist elitism. The idea that pricey, private secondary schools are creating little Marxist is laughable. They look down on kids who go to public school, even those who go to good public schools.
ReplyThe school should yield to the parent. Full stop. Parents should be given the choice where to send their children.
ReplyThe title is misleading. This is more of a problem in public schools but all schools/media are participating in woke cancel culture. Common sense is not just not common it is a punishable offense.
ReplyPublic schools are 100% indoctrination. If you send your kids to public school, you’re a child abuser.
ReplyIs Bill becoming…politically incorrect?
ReplyAm I in Bizarro world? Bill Maher with the same talking points as Fox News?
ReplySurprise of the day: Bill Maher hosts a conversation where white people discuss why their children shouldn’t be taught to share.
ReplyThey are complaining about the Private Schools… but Indoctrination is occurring at ALL schools
ReplyI really resonated with what Caitlin said.
ReplyIt’s about time bill pulled his head out of his TDS butt.
ReplyNo one ever talks about the preemptive issue in education…each student has different abilities and comprehension capacities. Put 30 kids in a room and try to “indoctrinate” them…at least 12 will say “right on bro” while having no idea wtf you are talking about.
ReplyWow, I really like that this was covered & agree with these guests. It is a very scary era in our country. Parents need to unite, the public need to unite and this country needs to unite for TRUTH & EQUALITY and squash those who want to divide it with propaganda & make every event action & event about ethnicity, sexual orientation, gender & victimization. Real News & REAL FACTS will reveal that WE are MORE united than divided & much more color blind than not. This is why those who benefit from unrest are the same people who do NOT support the 10% that do report non-partisan, non-racist, non-opinionated facts that allow the viewer to make a conclusion and form an opinion and NOT hammer them in the face with bias.
Reply2:35 Schools were always mostly about indoctrination, since when was that not the case?
ReplyLeft are poison
ReplyEducation starts at home parents need to ( especially now ) not just rely on the school to teach your kids every year they teach less and less so kids will pass they don’t even teach cursive where I live anymore! I work with a younger person who never heard of Tiananmen Square or Lord of the Flies and another a few years older then him ( admitted he dropped out mid 11th grade) but he can barely read a Dr. Seuss book! With a lot of support he saw a tutor and is doing great but that just tells me that he always could if a teacher would have just spent a little time but not a single teacher cared they had to know and passed him anyway!
Reply100 years ago corporate heads found out that if they sponsored schools they could decide which textbooks were to be used. They decided to make American History WHITE. And they decided to TRAIN people to work in mid level jobs instead of TEACH people how to think.
ReplyKids are TRAINED to enter the job market, or the military and nothing else.
This has being on since the 1990s. It is not new.
Reply#Reparations for the descendants of slaves.
ReplySeem like this past year has brought him out of the left side and more to being a real liberal again.
ReplyKey phrase should be used on every network, in every household, to every society, every person regardless of statued……..”Openmindedness”.
ReplyOpen your damn mind!!!
Jeez I don’t know how it is in the US but I can tell you for a fact that parents in Australia don’t hold back from telling us teachers how to do our job.
ReplyNonsense. Our public schools only expect you to understand a subject, not believe it. Sheeple underestimate skepticism in kids. Religious indoctrination in US schools was one of the most effective tools in creating the atheist movement of the late 19th and early 20th century.
ReplySorry, sorry … we are teaching children from a “Marxist perspective”?! Examples, please?! What the heck are you talking about?
Replyits all about choice Bill, and moreover from indoctrination and social engineering in public schools and also lack of academic excellence
ReplyExeter is a boarding school.
ReplyOnly a radical leftist that wants to see the downfall of western civilisation and a socialist revolution would consider removing elite education from our nations. Sure, it may not be fair, but these are the people who are at the cutting edge of many fields, not least of which science and technology.
Reply“We’re losing the distinction between what education is, and what indoctrination is”
— Wait a second, didn’t I spend every morning in the 80s and 90s standing to mindless repeat some pledge to an object that included some bit about some sky wizard? But NOW we think we have lost the distinction between education and indoctrination? What? Also not sure how mindlessly worshipping capitalism is any better than mindlessly worshipping Marxism (or how to don’t have to be wealthy to think either of these systems aren’t insanely flawed).
And love how all those older people, complaining how the current generation isn’t taught to think overwhelming voted for some narcissist goon who create a cult of personality without a shred of logical policy development.
I doubt any of these people whining about this have any experience in education systems that didn’t focus on critical thinking. While yes, our education system fails us because of how and what we teach (why do we not have personal finance and psychosocial awareness as part of our core curricula yet have other courses that no one but a tiny faction of people will ever use again).
ReplyThe cold eggplant dolly boil because approval biomechanically radiate without a alcoholic parallelogram. utter, childlike lute
ReplyThe neo-Marxist propaganda didn’t magically appear after the BLM riots of last summer. It dates back to the Frankfurt school, postmodernists like Adorno, Marcuse and Foucault, and critical theory, which is the wellspring of CRT. Glad to see the left finally catching up, but it’s a little late having voted for Biden.
ReplyIf only Bill had the balls to talk about these issues the last couple years.
ReplyBull from the right and the left creating non thinkers
ReplyTo feel as though the racial reckoning that stemmed from the BLM movement is “grotesque” speaks absolute volumes. Who knew that demanding white people to not be so sh!*ty was grotesque. The uselessness of me siting here listening to people whine about education and the people wanting to make a change in life from the status quo. And speaking of education – they did a whole lot of talking but really didn’t say a single thing.
ReplyDo her glasses bother anyone else? I couldn’t unsee it
ReplyMuch larger discussions hopefully will come of these segments. Long form discussions
Replyknown as ‘silver spoon socialism’ or ‘middle class Marxism’ for those of you who recall that the “middle class” is the wealthy who are not royals. Harry and Meg can never be middle class and the wealthiest billionaire in America is “only” middle class. most of us are properly ‘working class’ why bother?
they are apologizing on behalf of white people, particularly white males, for the sins of the past “we’re all in this together” *wink wink* but it was never the working class who owned the plantations and factories, nor is it the working class who can afford their own family trust, private foundation, offshore account, shell companies and the slick lawyers and accountants who run them
this is not an outlier moment as Ms. Flanagan states, it is a classic stage of the historical cycle (degeneracy/corruption followed by collapse/upheaval)
take a *circle* and put a word and a phrase at the top: *democracy* and *rule of law*
put *totalitarianism* on the bottom, *socialism* on the left and *capitalism* on the right side of the circle
this describes the concentration of power and how it is kept in check – the “rule” of law does not refer to police and prisons but to the fact that everyone is under the law – it is the underpinning of democracy. when the wealthy industrialist or the communist party member is not under the rule of law then the wheel begins to tilt toward the bottom and it really makes no difference whether it is to the right or left – and by the way nobody in power ever gave it up, it was taken by violence until the rule of law was instated and only then can democracy effectively remove the inept and the corrupt without violence
this is the system the Roman Church backed for a thousand years (aka the “divine right of kings”) and is yet on display these past forty years as they refused many times to report heinous crimes to law enforcement because they were “dealing with it themselves”
look up the Thirty Years War – we beheaded the first King Charles in 1649 and the French beheaded some 20,000 of their aristocracy 130 years later. it does not go away, it is the natural manifestation of the concentration of power, what that does to people who hold it – and what they will do to hold on to it – and it don’t matter whether your monkeys are socialists, capitalists, monarchs, oligarchs, industrialists, ecofascists, celebrities, politicians: they will try to hold onto it once they get hold of it
I don’t even have to get into the moral aspect, is there anyone who doesn’t believe the “rule of law” has a few cracks showing even in the western countries that are based thereon? 500 years of war and revolution: no it won’t pass, the imbalance is growing, there are multiple routes around elected government and the legal system for multinational corporations, high net worth individuals and their playthings: the non governmental organizations they use to influence public opinion and shape public policy – if there isn’t one they can buy like a football team they simply create their own private foundation.
ReplyParents are NOT afraid to challenge what is going on in the classroom. They challenge everything.
ReplyThis woman needs to shut the hell up.
ReplyCan you please have a guest on who might acknowledge how many politicians sent their kids to private school in CA, while simultaneously demanding public schools remain closed? This was absurd. There is no excuse. On behalf of most parents in nation who dealt with this collapse of government: I am angry! I blamed Trump when needed (most of his term) but the DNC should have prioritized school in its states even if Feds would not helped and it did not. California schools are two hours a day every other day in places. This is absurd. This is not acceptable.
ReplyWhen Marxists speak of “unity,” what they really mean in “conformity.” Wrongthink is not only forbidden, it must be punished…
ReplyI’ve always felt that the purpose of private education, at the highest levels at least, was to perpetuate the class system (just as in the “public” schools in the UK).
ReplyThis is a hate-filled sophistry…how about instead of hating the rich and wanting to break all their nice things, you focus on loving and helping the poor. Closing down schools like Middlesex and Exeter doesn’t help a single kid going to his crappy inner-city public school…not even remotely. stop this nonsense now.
ReplyThe title should be “Public Schools: …”, as they quite quickly pointed out that private schools weren’t the issue when it came to indoctrination.
ReplyWe need more private schools, not less.
Reply“Parents are afraid to challenge…..” Totally disagree I had 3 meetings with the prinicipal so far.
ReplyAnother ignorant reactionary trope that the “Marxists” are coming for your kids! Yet not one of these people work in education or understand it. Interesting.
ReplyBill Maher has changed a lot from what he championed. You were told what you were doing but because you were and still an ideologue you fancied it. Some of us who come from real Marxist countries know it better and we are surprised people who were born in leafy Pennsylvania, Boston, Delaware and the rich areas of New York, London and Geneva claim to want it. I’m astonished. Marxism and it’s younger sibling socialism are terrible ideologies. They regard majority of people and make few very rich and the rich ones are called champagne Socialists. Don’tt tell me you know Socialist than me who was born and grew up in it till I migrated. Now they have set their eyes on Private schools after they destroyed the Public ones. It’s coming to you. Those on the panel are genuinely scared but they are pretending. It is a psychological game that they are playing. Sow Socialism and destroy your society.
ReplyToo late. You andbthe left used it on the right. Now that it is boomereanging, you call ‘No Joy’!. No shit.
ReplyWho cares it’s the white thing to do.
ReplyMarxism does not always mean soviet union. Ask an actual communist if they want the US to become the USSR 99 percent will say no we want to be more like Star Trek
ReplyHoly Cow Bill has actually identified REAL ‘white privilege’. It’s not guys like me who went to public schools and state colleges (NCSU ’81). No it’s the Skull and Bones, the Seven Sisters and ‘blazers with the school patch’ crowd. They’re aren’t smarter, they aren’t better looking, they aren’t more moral or harder working, they’re not superior in any way…. they’re just the PRIVILEGED! They’ve got the power. Plus they don’t mind dividing us along any lines they can so we never notice that privilege.
ReplyComically, Bill doesn’t know hes part of the problem.
ReplyIf Bill pokes his nose a little bit more outside his own ass he’s going to start talking about how he’s part of the problem.
ReplyLol, private schools are the only reason we have successful children
Replyim sorry but i just got my mba in 2018. if you want indoctrination go to public schools. need proof, new subject critical race theory.
ReplyBill Maher had lost me for long time. Well hey he has waken up a hole hell of lot. Listen to them I love hearing this . Good work Bill you got me back.
ReplyAs someone who attended a public school with metal detectors, I would have given a kidney to attend one of these schools. It’s a trickle-down effect: You attend these schools, you have access to the ivy league and in turn, you get priority in the interview process, you will be successful. Let’s not kid ourselves that America doesn’t care about where you went to school. Just look at every single specialist that gets featured in documentaries or reports, they come from the Ivy League. Wanna be a successful lawyer or business person? Go to the Ivy League. Even if you want to become a regular public school teacher, you will get fast-tracked if you join programs like Teach for America, an Ivy League favorite. The writer herself is talking about shutting down these schools, yet she sent her own children to them. What hypocrisy!
ReplyYes! Yes! This is the sort of thing that conservatives have been talking about for years. It is sad that only when things have gotten this bad that editors from the Atlantic and the New York Times have finally come to understand how pernicious it can be. Despite the fact that these two powerful publications helped create the problem to begin with. Thank you Bill Maher for addressing this issue, and so many others that are destroying the fabric of our society.
ReplyI really dont know where these people are coming from. As a teacher myself, they are totally wrong. This is the exact opposite experience I have had. Parents, lead by the mainstream media (right or left take your pick), dont hesitate to question teachers on allowing their child access to learn about all topics. We need to change this narrative of obsessive partisan polarization, because that is the real problem. The truth is that parents dont want thier kids to know the facts, just the talking points of their preferred political point of view.
ReplyPeople are so upset about “wokeness” which I guess has been a thing for about 2 years. They are fighting “wokeness”. Try being black in America and have to endure racism since the first Africans were enslaved in this country over 400 years ago. So cry me a bucket of tears for the majority in America having to come to terms with the inherent injustices that others face.
ReplyThank You, Bill. Resubscribing.
ReplyHere in Michigan, public universities and community colleges are just trying to find enough money and students to stay OPEN.
ReplyI keep hearing about radical indoctrination at some elite college or university, while most of our classes are taught by part-time instructors just trying to make ends meet, and full-time instructors that are taking pay cuts, and most of them are teaching courses where there would be no way to insert a “woke agenda” even if they wanted to.
I wish more people in public education and more parents were more interested in teaching people to read and write, before trying to even talk about radical ideas. Most of the students I know are just scratching the surface of ideas, and aren’t really able to think or write about them at any in-depth level.
Because it turns out its REALLY HARD to get most people to read or write at a college level, so wherever all of this indoctrination is going on, it could be that its a substitute for learning basic skills. Because its easier when you don’t have to learn to evaluate ideas, but just learn a slogan. But all the teachers *I* know are just making students read a lot of different viewpoints, trying to get them to think about what they actually means, and write about what it actually means. And its pretty tough going, if you really want to know.
Like, what kind of Marxism is in the schools though? Like please tell me what high schools are talking about decommodification and creating a worker’s state? I feel like ten years ago Bill would have been saying this is what needs to happen.
ReplyOne name: Chessy Prout.
Replyimagine being dumb enough to actually think marxists indoctrinate your children at school. holy fuck
ReplyBill Maher has recently learned that the Radical Leftist government and media has pushed his traditional Liberal values closer to the Right.
ReplyIt’s not really Marxism that they’re being indoctrinated with. It’s closer to Marcuse. It’s important that we understand this distinction so that we can effectively push back against it.
ReplyOkay, new rule. Next election is between Bill Maher and Ben Shapiro. Please…we need to get the pedophilia and corruption out of the White House.
ReplyAmen! from a Republican here in CT these kids are not learning Anything!
ReplyBret Stephens: “The climate of fear isn’t just in our schools, it’s throughout institutions, companies, all over the country. People have to start calling bullshit on it.”
ReplyThis guy works for the New York Times? He’s going to get canceled if he keeps talking about free speech.
You know that CRT (Critical Race Theory) is getting bad when even Bill Maher is speaking out against it.
ReplyBLM wants Segregation to protect their feelings. However, Latinos will soon be 2nd bigges majority to Whites which makes Blacks 2nd place minority. I am 3rd!
ReplyAnd yet they keep voting for Democrats who keep going further and further Left….
ReplyI’m glad to see that even the Liberals are waking up to how destructive the Left is. We cannot survive as a country with half of it hating America. America is a good country and capitalism and Judeo/Christian beliefs are the core reasons why.
ReplyIndoctrination? Any leftists school outside of Christian schools
ReplySchools need to teach math.. science…the languages and etc…. not one minute should be spent on making them liberal or conservative…shut the fuck up and teach class not policy
ReplyWhy does my poop come out green and mushy? Kinda like spinach paneer saag.
ReplyHe probably wouldn’t like me if he met me, but I really do respect him!
ReplyPrivate schools? Lets start with the CRAP going on in public schools…
ReplyLet them waste their money, the science is in, you IQ IS DETERMINED BY AGE 5 no amount of money or education will change it. You IQ at AGE 5 almost PERFECTLY predicts net worth at age 55
ReplyHow about public schools and the liberal indoctrination that occurs there??
ReplyWord.
Replyflanagan probably went to a private school
ReplySorry Bill. The applauding leftist lemmings of your audience are exactly the ones that enabled these psych ops against young minds.
ReplyDemocrats need to pass intelligent social democratic policy, govern competently, and speak to a wide tent. They need less Critical social justice ideology, loved by donors but not even a political bonus used against a Saturday morning cartoon villain of its antithesis in Donald Trump. Universalism and liberalism is how to make a multiethnic democracy function
Wherever this puts me politically, whatever.
ReplyI think public schooling should be mandatory through high school. If you want to throw your money away on some fancy-schmancy private college for your kids then that’s great but they should have to go through their younger years of school with children of all different backgrounds so that way they can actually identify with their fellow citizens. It’s harder to hate people for BS reasons when you actually know them and know the stories you’ve been told about them are not true.
ReplyOmg, it is so true! Marxism is taught in the elite boarding schools and people are going along with it.
ReplyI was forced to go to catholic schools. And now I watch Bill Maher. So there you go.
ReplyI’m a conservative. What I’m seeing now, is that liberals and conservatives are fearful of this new party. The woke party is very communist and its gonna hurt all of us. Im waiting for the next Stalin to emerge in America. I guarantee you hes out there and if the woke get their way, he will give them what they want. Absolutely nothing just like Chavez. Promise much, get elected, take everything.
ReplyThe guy they brought on hit the nail on the head. Almost every single fucking class made us read Marx at Loyola. I had to read it in a fucking ART CLASS! I just stopped doing it as assigned reading because come senior year, I pretty much had a good idea of how to summarize most of his shit. Marx is not the be all end all of leftist literature! Can we please read some fuckin’ Chomsky for once?
ReplyThe Atlantic is the shittiest magazine available.
ReplyI was zoned for the worst school district in my state, It was also one of the most funded..My parents sent me to private school that had facilities from the 1950s, but great educators. Very thankful for their sacrifice
Replyi went to a catholic private school and the science class taught us evolution and how it works… Religion didn’t have any place in the discussion, in fact it encouraged us to start paying more attention to science class in general….
ReplyI live in Puerto rico. The public education here is horrible. I refuse to allow my child to go to schools here. Fucking private education cost more then colleges here. I have tried to get my child into waldorf schools which is absolutely impossible. Those schools aren’t affordable either. An average family here make $18,000 a year.
ReplyI’d appreciate it if they were specific instead of making blanket statements, because I have no idea wth they’re talking about
ReplyPublic schools and almost all colleges are indoctrination centers in some way.
ReplyI often wonder where Bill gets his news from?
ReplyReally recommend people read the Bari Weiss article; she describes it more in detail with frankly disturbing examples of groupthink. You can find it on her Twitter, @bariweiss.
ReplyAll three are out of touch.
ReplyBill is 100 on this
ReplyThought it was Nina Hartley
ReplyMarxism only works for you if you’re from a billionaire family? What the fuck?
Replymy opinion this is how it should be:
1 – something need to be fixed within the family circles at home. Its a parents responsibility to ensure they raise their children with in the good functioning and safe environment.
2 – Social conducts and behaviour need to be based on Humane Rationale not by any nationalist Ideologies. It should be distinctively separated.
3 -A basic Fundamental Triad (Spell, Read, Calculate) need to be acquired substantially before employ the school years.
ReplyHoly crap, for a while there I was feeling like Trump might actually be our only hope against this stuff – tough pill to swallow. Now I feel like actual liberals are starting to call out the Marxist cult spreading through our society and I feel like we might stand a chance.
Reply“I studied Marxism in school, it’s different than being taught from a Marxist perspective.” Couldn’t agree more, but can we also do the same for capitalism?
ReplyGuess what? Companies can choose their values
ReplyI’m an atheist too but let’s be real. Society nose dived when they took God out
ReplyBill knows he is a Cis white male and they will eventually come for his ass
ReplyI live in the Bible Belt in the US. The only indoctrination going on here is the dangerous ideology of Christian Nationalism. Christian teachers push their “Christian morals” on everyone whether you are Christian or not.
ReplyI went high school during 2001-2005 the only indoctrination I got is that terrorist hate our freedom. That America is the greatest nation on Earth because God will it. Only one teacher told us understand those that mean to harm us because pain isn’t exclusive to us. Understanding their pain can we stop terrorism from spreading. Basically understand why you became their enemy and change that so you don’t create more. He was told not to speak like that about tragic events. Whether it’s Marxism or Patriotism or football programs deserve all the money from academic programs period, there is always a narrative being pushed. Today I feel smart kids are being marginalized in many schools because they have to focus in slower learners and mostly because parents no longer put any effort into their kids at home education.
ReplyPublic education system is more dangerous to public health than AR-15 ownership.
ReplyLets make sure to mention how Harvard openly discriminates against Asians and how Biden’s DOJ has dropped the lawsuit against Harvard for their denial of Asian students based 100% off of their race.
ReplyI was disappointed nobody actually discussed Bill’s most critical point. Prohibitively expensive private grade schools are funneling students into ‘elite’ Universities, and then from there they’re essentially cherry picked by fortune-500 companies and the Federal Government. Have you ever wondered why it seems like every high-profile businessperson and congressperson comes from one of the old blueblood schools?
It was not always this way mind you, especially outside of the federal government.
The country is being led and indoctrinated by these people. I don’t think it’s a conspiracy or even that many of these people have bad intent. I know plenty of Harvard and Yale grads, at least for someone who went to a public uni. They all think exactly the same way. I do not mean personality, but more like broader philosphies. These “elite” schools are already leading to institutional weakness from the top down because of the lack of perspective.
ReplyOnly public schools are qualified to indoctrinate the students
ReplyParents are not experts in pedagogy or education – teachers are. Parents are to trust the experts teaching their children, not doubt them. if they don’t like it, they can go to teachers college and do an MA in Education like me. Otherwise, be quiet and stick with your job and what you know best.
ReplyAll schools invoke indoctrination.
ReplyJesus Christ, how can you have this Title but not include “Public schools”. The most indoctrination comes from public schools. That’s a fact! They dont even give you books like “The Merchant of Venice” and “Wealth of Nations” to read in public schools. All you get is books about utopia, community, big government and skewed history. Their libraries are barely shelved with books with contrasting views and teachers mostly recommend only books and information they agree with. Basically, if your teacher’s night job is raiding streets with groups like Antifa, your kids are fucked. I’m definitely schooling my kid outside the United States. That’s for sure
ReplyMy 13 year old son is autistic. He was bullied and tormented in public school. A private school has brought peace and safety to his life. I’m thankful for the private school option because the public school teachers did nothing to help my son. They only cared about the rich (fund raiser contributing) parents.
Reply*_Charter schools, and especially some particular networks of charter schools, located in low-income black and Hispanic neighborhoods have achieved educational results not only far above the levels achieved by most public schools in those neighborhoods, but sometimes even higher educational results than those in most schools located in affluent white neighborhoods. No one expected that._*
~ Thomas Sowell, _Charter Schools and Their Enemies_
*_Educate and inform the whole mass of the people… They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty._*
~ Thomas Jefferson
*_To educate a man is to unfit him to be a slave._*
~ Frederick Douglass
*_The most urgent necessity is, not that the State should teach, but that it should allow education. All monopolies are detestable, but the worst of all is the monopoly of education._*
~ Frederic Bastiat, _What Is Money?_
*_When the taste for physical gratifications among them has grown more rapidly than their education . . . the time will come when men are carried away and lose all self-restraint . . . . It is not necessary to do violence to such a people in order to strip them of the rights they enjoy; they themselves willingly loosen their hold. . . . they neglect their chief business which is to remain their own masters._*
~ Alexis de Tocqueville
*_It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled._*
~ Mark Twain
*_I must studiously and faithfully unlearn a great many of the things I have somehow absorbed._*
~ Mark Twain
*_Education consists mainly in what we have unlearned._*
~ Mark Twain
*_I have never let school interfere with my education._*
~ Mark Twain
*_Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance._*
~ Will Durant
*_There is no nonsense so arrant that it cannot be made the creed of the vast majority by adequate governmental action._*
~ Bertrand Russell
*_The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts._*
~ Bertrand Russell
*_Men are born ignorant, not stupid; they are made stupid by education._*
~ Bertrand Russell, _A History of Western Philosophy,_ 1945
*_Much of the social history of the Western world over the past three decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good. In area after area – crime, education, housing, race relations – the situation has gotten worse after the bright new theories were put into operation. The amazing thing is that this history of failure and disaster has neither discouraged the social engineers nor discredited them._*
~ Thomas Sowell
*_Drop out of school before your mind rots from exposure to our mediocre educational system. Forget about the Senior Prom and go to the library and educate yourself if you’ve got any guts._*
~ Frank Zappa
*_It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it._*
~ Aristotle
*_The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn._*
~ Alvin Toffler
*_Whenever is found what is called a paternal government, there is found state education. It has been discovered that the best way to ensure implicit obedience is to commence tyranny in the nursery._*
~ Benjamin Disraeli
*_Man had better be without education than be educated by their rulers._*
~ Thomas Hodgskin
*_The aim of public education is not to spread enlightenment at all, it is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level, to breed and train a standardized citizenry, to put down dissent and originality._*
~ H.L. Mencken
*_So the world got compulsory schooling at the end of a state bayonet for the first time in human history; modern forced schooling started in Prussia in 1819 with a clear vision of what centralized schools could deliver:_*
*_- Obedient soldiers to the army;_*
*_- Obedient workers to the mines;_*
*_- Well subordinated civil servants to government;_*
*_- Well subordinated clerks to industry;_*
*_- Citizens who thought alike about major issues._*
~ John Taylor Gatto
*_Public educators, like Soviet farmers, lack any incentive to produce results, innovate, to be efficient, to make the kinds of difficult changes that private firms operating in a competitive market must make to survive._*
~ Carolyn Lochhead
*_Education is a weapon, whose effect depends on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed._*
Reply~ Joseph Stalin
You need a national standardised curriculum.
ReplyParents don’t challenge because then they’ll be called out as Karens or the Twitterati and other social media outlets will call them out. Parents will roll with the punches and not question what their children are being taught in classrooms for fear of reprisal. That’s all it is plain and simple.
ReplySchools have become too political, they aren’t even trying to educate anymore.
ReplyNone of these people have any idea what’s actually going on in schools. They all send their live in nanny/housekeepers to take their kids to and from school and to parent/teacher night. They watched a few Dave Rubin and Tim Pool YouTube videos and now they think they have the education system all figured out, but they haven’t set foot on a school campus or spoken with an actual educator since 1984.
ReplySo much food could be done on this moment
ReplyReligion took over schools, so you can only have their view.
ReplyI would marry this lady jist because kf what she said about Marxism and rich kids.
ReplyWhy are we even discussing it, it’s clearly indoctrination.
ReplyThis … was a mostly pointless conversation. Flanagan made one point within 30 seconds about closing down elitist private schools that basically create a plutocracy.
And then Bret Stephens comes in and says a bunch of garbage to prove that elitist private schools should be eliminated.
It’s quite clear none of these people has spent time in a classroom since they were in college.
The indoctrination does exist. You’re indoctrinated into white Eurocentrism, capitalism, and Christian imperialism.
Their generation refused to teach the opposing or differing points of view in schools, and left out all of the atrocities of the US.
I had to walk a fine line as a teacher because the State Board of Ed was run by a bunch of religious quacks insisted on removing Thomas Jefferson, evolution, and the Big Bang, and replacing them with creationism, Phyllis Schlafly and the Heritage Foundation.
Replyprivate schools ??????? they should pay a visit to most american colleges these days…… they are full of far-left SJW snowflakes……. speaking of “indoctrination” :D:D:D
ReplyThis started in 1964 with LBJ’s – forced government integration – then the government simply did what they wanted with any liberal agenda – like the myth “beauty of diversity” . . . Considering today’s crime rate we can say that myth was / is a complete lie . . .
ReplyWhat are you actually talking about? What type of indoctrination? Give examples? This is so abstract I don’t see the actual problem.
ReplyBut there are large numbers of “Christian” schools which also indoctrinate their students – usually from an evangelical or Catholic point of view. These are often “anti-woke”. Plus many home-school packages designed to teach everything, including science, from a “Biblical” perspective. The right has a much more aggressive and organised influence campaign on students than the left.
ReplyBlack people need an Isreal or reservation, self governance, seperation.
ReplyIf you think parents are afraid of schools you haven’t been in a school, even a public school, in a very LONG time. However, there are some valid points raised here. Parents are one of the biggest impediments to the educational process and LONG TERM student success.
Replywho learns “about” marxism, but not from a marxist perspective, without learning that said marxism is the “commie ideology that will enslave us all”? from a marxist perspective, the true indoctrination is learning “about” marxism as such. that’s how ideology works, but it’s something the idiots from “elite education” never learn.
ReplyThe tragedy of current education is the co-opting of school as a place for policy and politics. Everything has been turned into a talking point that isn’t always in the best interest of the kids (NCLB, high stakes testing, “civics” curriculum, sex ed, etc. – of course this is to be expected when the people who are in charge of boards of education and education committees are political appointees rather than people who actually have experience at the local school level.
ReplyPublic schools indoctrinate our kids
ReplyBill is starting to become somewhat unentertaining with his Facebook Newsfeed, low info, anti -wokeness.
ReplyTeachers don’t have enough time to Mark students let alone teach Marx if they wanted to, which they don’t or can’t, being such a profoundly difficult economic philosophy… guess what… philosophy ain’t on the already underfunded and depleted curriculum! They barely have the resources for STEM!
Whatever this “woke” problem is, Marx ain’t it. Clintonism maybe.
Shame Bill, shame…
What?
ReplyThey think private schools are indoctrinating people? Go to a public school in the suburbs of any major city.
ReplyGo news for you you can go to public university and it can cost you just as much. Public schools teach what they want you to learn not what you want. Promoting public school is funding Democrats.
Replythink maybe teachers union should listen to this!!!
Replyprivate schools seems less about indoctrination than public schools!!!!!!!!
ReplyYour daddy has to a billionaire for Marxism to work for you personally.
ReplyThis was predicted by Inception as early as 2010: No matter how woke you go, there’ll always be more levels of woke.
ReplyAs opposed to what? the evangelical maga prats and what they’re teaching their kids at home, at church and on fox news? Bill, we see you flirting with the moral panic regarding wokeness… soon you’ll join rubin and shapiro, you’ll be in good company.
ReplyCmon bill barry weiss???
ReplyI teach at an urban elementary school in east Fort Worth. The types of school being discussed r on the other side of the spectrum from my district and specifically my elementary school
ReplyWhen I filled out my paperwork for my first COVID shot, I came to the question “Gender at birth.” I thought, WTF, crossed out the “at birth” part and checked “male.” I realize that, with the current fad of ‘altering’ one’s gender, they had to accommodate such contingencies, but it still pissed me off.
ReplyMost private schools get the worst teachurs……;-)
ReplyHoly shit, this comment section section is littered with morons.
Replyout of touch rich TV talk show host with no kids thinking he knows what the problems are with kids in school haha
ReplyI can’t believe I have started listening to Bill Maher and agreeing with him. At one point he said he doesn’t want to be another Tucker Carlson and believe me I never thought I’d want to listen to Bill Maher but I have been…
ReplyThe reasons why these billionaires and sons of billionaires love Marxism is because they think they will stay at the top
ReplyHow dare private schools indoctrinate children, thats the public school’s job
ReplyWTF !! No discussion on how Faith-based (ChristiafanAddicts) are brain-washing our children to produce Ted Cruzes, Josh Hawleys and MOST of the GOPs!?!? Rather that they be exposed to comparative philosophies rather than “creationism” which eventually leads to “Trumpism” and Jim Crow-ism!
ReplyI’m glad to see this show taking a stand for moral fortitude (and subsequently) taking a stand against Marxism. . . . However, the LEFT fervently believes in moral relativity and even gender relativity. I think Bill Maher is at a cross-roads of political identity. You can’t be a left wing liberal and have the above mentioned beliefs. That’s called Conservatism.
ReplyWoke nonsense will be the end of us. It’s totalitarian. This is the side that burns books. That protests people from speaking. That sees racism and sexism where there is none. That want to overcompensate by being sexist and racist against white men… when this happens you get people like Trump elected. I’ve been incredibly vocal speaking out to my “woke” friends. I used to be scared to… not anymore. You’d be surprised how many people have a “oh thank god” look on their face when you speak up. Or admit that they are afraid to speak up. The people that are offended? So what. They’re offended.
ReplyYou’re not going to fix education until you limit teacher/student ratio down to 1:15. Thirty-five kids in a room, and you expect to get anything done? Cmon, man.
ReplyThe reason why the elite love Marxism is because Marxism sucks for everyone except for the elite.
ReplyThe level of ignorance about what Marxism is here is staggering
ReplyToo many democrat party duncemasters in the media and on twitter. I am embarrassed for the demonRats party. Yikes
ReplyPublic Schools: Education or Indoctrination?
ReplyMy kindergartener’s class had a some woke ass book read to them about “bad white cops”. Presenting complex racial issues to a 5 year old…
ReplyMan, you know this country is going down the crapper fast when I agree with Bill Maher AND his guests.
ReplyPrivate schools are preaching marxism haha good one
ReplyJews, Christians, and Muslims believe God tells us to train our children to trust, love, serve, and follow him, and that we should do this deliberately, consistently, and comprehensively. (Please stop and read Deuteronomy 6:4-9 if you need to check me out here. All the aforementioned groups would recognize it as divinely-given scripture, and all would agree that the sentiment is at the very core of what it means to be a Jewish, Christian, or Muslim parent.) Now along come the panel on this show suggesting that such parents in America should not be allowed to create and maintain such schools for the education/indoctrination/love of their children. What totalitarian, Jacobin poison is this? And the most chilling thing is, these people don’t even seem to have a clue how out of touch what they’re saying is with the great majority of parents in America and around the world. As usual, secular-minded people have no clue what the rest of us actually believe.
ReplyIts really simple bill if we don’t shut down all forms on non-state provided education our indoctrination does not work, are you prepared to face a future where some of the graduates are actually capable of thinking for themselves critically? I know, terrifying isn’t it, the thought of people doing what is in their own best interest instead of following our programming for the global good.
ReplyYes. Oh wait. I thought it said public schools
ReplyCancel culture is a cancer infecting Western civilisation. Truth is the cure.
ReplySeems like she is lumping a lot of private schools into a dustbin with Exeter and Harvard. Does she have any concept how many private schools there are with a noble mission, smaller class sizes and better teacher / student ratios able to address student individuality much more readily than huge state-run schools with 20+ per class. Elitism is not the model for every school.
ReplyI love this show. I’m always blown away and humbled here.
ReplyI was in high school in the 90s, most of my teachers were in their 50s-60s a few younger and a few older, most all with great life experiences. Today our kids are being taught in high school by other kids that just attended college for 4 years, got a certificate that said they can teach (very subjective word) and they are off to the races making their 35k a year with 100k in student loan debt. Why would you let your kids be taught by financial idiots? Bad pay for teachers is one situation that hurts the education of our youth but the other and it’s even worse is teachers with little to no life experience.
ReplyAbolish public schools not private schools
ReplyDems want to be the only one that brainwashes children.
ReplyDid I just saw a Bill Maher segment where he defends conservativism?
ReplyIs this clip complete? They are making no sense, what is their point? Its like 5 or 10 minutes is missing explaining the issue.
ReplyReally? Why you did not talk about that early? You was so afraid to look like Trump supporters
ReplyThis is a very pertinent discussion, the points made are absolutely relevant to what is going on today, well done for having the guts to stick with the debate and not be intimidated by the Cancel Culture set , lets hope serious educational institutes will do the same.
ReplyLol, the Right thinks public schools indoctrinate, and the Left thinks private school indoctrinate. They’re probably both correct at the same time.
ReplyReal Time Hypocrisy with Bill Maher…. hey HBO and Bill don’t forget the role you played in the polarization of the public. you should have Jordan Peterson back on your show and discuss his question from about 3 years ago.
ReplyWoke, a word invented by grumpy old men who can’t keep up with times that are changing.
ReplyWhat about religion in schools,
Isn’t that indoctrination?
I think it’s good for there to be a variety of schools out there. You may not agree with what’s being taught but better to be in a free society with a few cultish schools than a society that bans certain forms of schools in favor of ‘the one true school’. To have freedom is to risk that people will make bad decisions, people will promote something that offends you, rich parents will send their rich kids to a morally questionable school. But who are we to decide what constitutes education and what constitutes indoctrination? Next we may try to argue that Catholic schools indoctrinate simply because along with critical thinking and philosophy, we learn about the history of our church, the wisdom of the saints, and grow our spiritual life in tandem with our intelligence. some will call that indoctrination. Some already do.
ReplyMoral values change over time.
ReplyHow do you think Donald Trump would do in a kindergarten class.?
Bet the teachers and the principal would want to have a conversation with the parents within one day
She’s worried about private schools?
ReplyIt seems the problem are the public schools.
No solutions until the filibuster is fixed.
ReplyHow about a 55% population-based cloture rule?
The Democrats currently represent over 55% of the voters.
Presto chango. No more filibuster.
#StopTheBlockheads #EndTheFilibuster
The NYT is not open to a variety of points of view which makes”democracy die in the dark’.
ReplyBill Maher is doing phenomenal work tackling this issue. Very very appreciative
ReplyPrivate schools are not the only ones indoctrinating the youth. Public schools from kinder garden and up are out of control with indoctrinating.
ReplySorry if I don’t believe though that Marxism is getting pushed in school. Trump’s supporters hate socialism/communism so much that there’s no way they went to these schools. And if they did, I guess the schools did a bad job brainwashing them. Fact is, “historical revisionism” was a problem even when I went to high school 12 years ago.
The REAL brainwashing was the “American exceptionalism” bullshit and attitude that America’s always been in the right and still is now. After all, where else could one be told with a straight face these days that Columbus “discovered” America, while completely ignoring the native genocide. So there’s certainly a lack of historical accuracy and/or recognition of the LESS pleasant aspects of this country’s history and attitude. And that’s why we still face the same problems of racism, bigotry, discrimination, and hatred today. “Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it”. That’s why I was a history major in college.
Reply“… thank god…”??
ReplyThank god I’m old enough to know that this to shall pass. As an example: we would have those folks from the 60’s still free loving all over the place.
ReplyIs that what it is? Am I not being ‘woke’ enough?
ReplyWhat a bag of dicks.
What the hell is all over the table top?
Replywe yanked our girl outta of public school when they tried to teach Critical Race theory and asked her to be ‘less white’. I had it out with the Principal who called me racist (3 times for no real reason)…I ripped her a new assh*le and I walked right into my daughter’s English class and we were outta’ there. The teacher was speechless as I flashed my ID and photo of my daughter in my wallet
ReplyLooks like 673 viewers demoted BM from “useful idiot” to “idiot”.
ReplyNo one has any business trying to shut down private schools.
ReplyWhat are you talking about? Talk to teachers, parents are constantly challenging them. The respect to teachers is lost in most places I know about.
ReplyYeah, private schools are a lot of crap. It’s just an excuse for white people to segregate their money. Any private school with a different curriculum, e.g. religious extremism, is charging extra for making kids dumber. I had the privilege of attending a great public school with lots of funding, and it prepared me for a lifetime of learning with advanced placement (college level) courses from genuinely great teachers. I don’t even know what I would be without that. So it irritates me a lot when everyone assumes a public education is inferior, or maneuvers into cutting off districts unlike mine from the resources they need to provide what I enjoyed. Everyone has the right to hear the rich tapestry of human ideas and see the view from the top of the tower of scientific achievement.
Providing anything less, or leaving anyone out, is unacceptable, and I suspect that America’s failure on this point has a lot to do with our political decay. It is too late for the QAnon folks, so we must ensure that we educate their children better as we wait for them to die.
ReplyAt a mixed gender public school in Australia recently the principle, at an assembly got all the boys, including 12 year olds, to apologise to all of the girls and women on behalf of their gender (male) for what other males have done to women and girls historically.
ReplyOf course the boys felt a sense of shame and didn’t really understand what they had done.
Public education or private education should not be in charge being the moral compass for students or preparing students for adulthood…. I.E. academics not grooming children’s morals
ReplyIdiots!!!!
ReplyMy parents went to private. I went to public. Public schools were all about bullying, clothes, hair , skin…
ReplyI want my kids in private.
Excellent.
ReplyThis is such a dumb conversation
ReplyThe fear mainly among the 1% that they might have to pay their fair share of taxes. The Republican base in the lower classes fear losing their assault rifles and their freedom to oppress others.
ReplyYou’re going to regulate the money people can spend on their children’s education?
ReplyThis woman knows little or nothing about what actually goes on in schools. There are millions of schools. What does she know about education?
ReplyHome school your kids, the state can’t get trusted
ReplyUnfortunately when you live in a market driven capitalist society, everything is viewed as a commodity. It can be bought and sold. Education, and health care through this lens are doomed. They are not made available in a fair or compassionate way, and people, their well being and potential for learning are not equally valued.
ReplyWhat could possibly go wrong with indoctrination of children in school and college?It is not like they will believe in socialism,systemic racism,that the police gleefully kill unarmed minority people or anything weird?Of course well indoctrinated children will be respectful of other people’s opinions and not shout them down with catchy phrases like “facist,racist,homophobe,political extremist,domestic terrorist,etc.”And of course they would never vote for a career politician that has a long history of making racist comments while claiming that everyone else is the racist.No,indoctrination of children while not teaching them cause and effect,there will be winners and losers,your opinions are just that your opinions and other people have the right to their own opinions,etc.nothing bad could possibly be wrong with that.
ReplyLeftists are pushing so far to the left Bill is very shortly going to find himself on the right!
ReplyThis is so wrong. Fund students, not systems and fire bad teachers in whatever school it is. Look into Corey from the Cato Institute. I grew up in public, private, charter, homeschool, and co-ops and good public schools are the exception to the rule. If you can take food stamps to any store you want based on your own decisions of what you you put in your body, then you should be able to decide what goes in your kid’s brain for yourself. I’ve known terrible teachers that were protected by unions and I’ve worked in a private school that was also a mess. But parents had more influence to help fix the private one. The proof is in the pudding the public schools need the competition of private schools to be kept in check. The indoctrination can happen anywhere and it IS happening in public schools.
Reply“you look like you were born on a tennis court.” Quality line.
ReplyI’ve taught at elite private, elite public, and not-so-elite public schools — they (Bill et al) are creating and attacking straw men. The influence parents have now is insane, and they have no problem trying to force us to teach their morals.
ReplySince indoctrination is a topic being brought up in this video, perhaps we could take a minute to to analyze how the information in this video is being presented to us, and whether it is asking us to think critically about these topics while providing us with credible supporting evidence to consider. I mention this, because there are some weak sections in this video that make powerful claims without much support:
1:53 “… now the parent is afraid of going against what they’re teaching in school.”
_- Broad generalization without credible supporting evidence._
2:21 “… thousands and thousands of public schools where parents are really afraid to challenge what is going on in the classroom. That’s really a problem — that’s really a serious problem in education.”
_- Statistical drop without mentioning evidence or a source that supports the claim that there are thousands and thousands of public schools where parents are afraid to challenge what is going on in the classroom — and also no mention of what specifically is going on in the classroom that she thinks parents should be challenging._
2:39 ” … and a lot of what is happening is indoctrination.”
_- Broad generalization without credible supporting evidence._
4:25 “… the lessons they are introducing on the backs of that protest are grotesque.”
Reply_- Speaker gets cut off without the opportunity to explain which schools specifically are pushing these lessons, and what makes these lessons “grotesque.” There is also no scope being provided. Is this a few schools? Is this the “thousands and thousands” that she mentioned earlier?_
The problem that prevents us from “pulling together” and standing up is each other. We can’t come together to fight this woke ideology because we’re too afraid that someone who we thought would be with us on this issue are actually going to turn against us to display their piety to the woke mob.
ReplyYou scumbags ain’t even teaching these kids the History of labor in this country. It’s literally Illegal in West Virginia.
ReplyWell, since almost all public schools are ruined by democrat commrats, and have been for the past 20 years, who teach that everyone is a winner and if you suck at something, DON’T learn to do better, but blame the white man, I would say the indoctrinations will continue until the democrats have completely destroyed the best and most free society to ever occur on the planet.
ReplyWell maybe it’s the fact that the majority of students have to get into a lifelong debt in order to manage a minimum lifestyle? Comparing that fact to two generations ago where one working father could sustain a wife, a household, a mortgage and three kids, it certainly feels that younger generations were cheated.
ReplyI don’t know who needs to hear this, you’ve got to stop saving money invest some part of it if you really want to attain financial freedom
ReplyBill Maher has declared an all out war on ‘woke culture’ … Go Bill !!!
ReplyLet me get this straight
ReplyPrivate schools Good education/ end up in a cult
Public schools bad eductaion/ end up in a cult.
Appropriate response get rid of private schools.
I have my education from a private school and very thankful to the Catholic nuns who taught me well.
ReplyOh bullshit. Parents are not afraid to challenge what’s in the schools. The parents are taking out things that doesn’t comport with their right-wing views.
ReplyThe ones that are fearful are the teachers, not the parents or the students.
ReplyWait. Are they referring to private or public schools?
ReplyThis is the dumbest shit I have heard in a long time. Public education is garbage.
ReplyLove the cognitive dissonance of the panel. Schools are institution of indoctrination but the real issue is protesters not listening to the elites about the dangers of socialistic indoctrination in a country that has historical prejudice against any socialistic ideas to the point of holding congressional hearings to root out communist sympathizers, not to mention the expulsion of any economics professor who dare to hold such views. So glad these privileged individuals are pushing back against the horrors of indoctrination but believe their morality should be taught in schools. Really think the decriminalization of drugs would be taught as moral teaching in this Christian nation… Bobbleheads so woke ;-p.
ReplyAll education is indoctrination
ReplyThe main reason why private school kids do better is because parents are paying the school directly and have invested interest in their kids excelling and also the school requires them to participate
ReplyThis is one of the reasons why oligarchs have no idea about how regular people live, just another way to divide people.
ReplyTeachers: from heroes to syndicated villains.
ReplyThe Atlantic is a rag publication.
ReplyNY Times and the Atlantic are huge woke garbage rags. They want now to be part of the solution they helped create? FO
ReplyInstead of demonizing private schools we need to ban Communist and critical race theory indoctrination period.
ReplyDisagree with the “Teachers” religion and guess what your little Jimmy’s grades are going to be….
ReplyThat’s probably the main fear.
Public schools are the REAL indoctrination, group think factories. They culminate in the echo chamber, bigoted, and intolerant public universities, where independent thought is punished, ridiculed, and excoriated.
ReplyPUBLIC Schools are the indoctrination camps. Not PRIVATE schools. When the Fed Dept of Education Changes the curriculum based on which party wins the White House, That’s indoctrination!
ReplyStop teaching American exceptionalism..its 100% pure bullshit
ReplyPublic school is the breeding ground for communism.
ReplyGood for covering this important topic. It is everywhere. Everything from education to media to companies are moving left and fast. We are in big trouble.
ReplySchool choice is the only option. Liberals only want the smart ones to be stupid like them. Allow for school choice and if you belive that kids are left behind, ( it’s probably because they have shitty parents) make the bar higher for the schools.
ReplyThe most powerful statement made in this segment was the last one. You HAVE to expose people (especially young people) to multiple points of view. I am a teacher and my job is to train my students HOW to think not WHAT to think. I am purposeful in excluding my personal belief system at every opportunity. The problem is that ‘woke’ is now a religion and religious fanatics are in the business of conversion not conversation. My primary fear (as a student of history) is the swing of the social and cultural pendulum. The French revolution lead to the totalitarianism of Napoleon Bonaparte. They replaced a king with a dictator and historically such has ALWAYS been the case at the conclusion of these “social” revolutions.
ReplyShe might be right about the private schools, but kids in public schools come out the same for the most part. Why only call out the tiny few exclusive private schools?
ReplyBret made the most sense
ReplyI’m happy to see that liberals can finally debate introspectively again, after they got their trigger issue out of the way. Might be too late for the West now though. Especially as they are not considering what brought us here (and, therefore, do not seek closure with the ones they need)..
ReplyHere’s some irony, they’ve been rooting for this the whole time. And now they’re discussing it but barely
ReplyEducation is teaching you how to think.
ReplyIndoctrination is teaching you what to think.
Private schools are filters to sift out the true psychopaths from mere pretenders.
ReplyThe religion of Woke is taking over ALL schools.
ReplyPublic schools: education or Indoctrination?
ReplyThe rest of the show was just fluff, this is the meat the elites in the program wanted to champion. Don’t get a clue, that’s threatening. Notice the alignment when this subject comes up and notice how they are all elites. (Bill Maher the least so.)
ReplyBill Maher arguing the world is complicated at a chart that took that into account… He knows this, and he also knows that saying that masks the fact the chart he’s showing is broad, inclusive and specific, although it is far from perfect. This is what the elites talking down to people is. This clip. BM is not the liberal champ some want to think he is. He’s way to cozy where he’s at.
ReplyWhat is the definition of “Woke Culture”?
ReplyComing from a conservative, I think Bill is in a unique position within the Democrat party to call bull $hit on the progressive lefts (communist wing) taking over of the party. Thank you Bill of making fun of the WOKE left!!
Replypublic education has a severe problem as well.
ReplyIt’s funny when people who don’t understand what Marxism is try to say how bad Marxism is.
ReplyThe blue pilled circle jerk hour
ReplyI love Bill Maher and how he is always willing to have a conversation
ReplyQuit voting democrat. Promote private and charter schools. Promote school choice. End teachers unions.
ReplyTell me how Public Schools are better.
Replyyawn
ReplyThe marxism is right
Replybret stephens is a waste of oxygen
ReplyHoly Ghost, Bill Maher is still around? I remember he was somewhat popular for a few years in the 2000’s.
ReplyThis woman turns me on
ReplyBill is an idiot don’t like him never had never will
He’s soooo right about the parents no longer having the teachers backs. I taught art classes to kids & if there was a kid who wouldn’t behave rarely would the parents believe. I had one woman swear her angel had never been a discipline problem before, yet that child’s brother told me she’d once BITTEN a teacher. How clueless can u be about ur own child?
ReplyCaitlin Flanagan is just way way hot. Reminds me of Susan Sarandon, but smarter.
ReplyThe audacity of public educators to accuse private schools of indoctrination is ridiculous! Nothing liberals say or do shock me anymore. They are vile human beings that need to be quickly disposed of. Sim neej no kuv yuav ntxub nej cov liberal mob pim mob qau ua luaj li os. Cov niag ntsej muag dev kav tsij tuag coob me ntsis os.
ReplyBill Maher is butthurt for a while because some woke snobs don’t like him, that he has started a crusade against liberal thinking, even to go as far as to agree with the more outrageous claims from the right wing.
In the meantime, we go trough a medical crisis (that the right made worse trying to dismantle Obamacare and many have refused to adopt protective measures to combat the spread, like wearing masks), an economic crisis (that the right has made worse trough trickle down bullshit propaganda), a debt crisis (that the right has made worse because god forbid the people are aided, and the financial institutions regulated), a skyrocketing murder rate (that the right has made worse because god forbid sensible gun reform is instated)
But oh, the left has some terrible view on how you should behave/speak in public, so we got to FOCUS ON THAT RIGHT AWAY!
You know what? The illusion that schools turn you marxist would not be so prevalent in your mind, if people were given a fair shot in life, not having to live paycheck to paycheck, to work 2-3 jobs to survive. But ofc, the “guy who looks like he was born on a tennis court” thinks everything that comes for his undeserved well being, is a marxist. Higher taxes for the rich is marxist, say the rich. In a country that has gone so far right, anything remotely left looks like marxism, especially to the right wing.
Replyand yet he is anti Trump
ReplyGovernment schools are indoctrination for the state, always support the state and its power and legitimacy as a concept
ReplyWhen you’re reacting, you emote. The neural pathways which are most active bypass the rational parts of the mind. It is a more difficult exercise but on the long term for you and society as a whole a more rewarding one, to control your temper in any situation and think on what made you mad and start thinking critically.
ReplyIt is one of the core elements of education and that is not taught to kids and teenagers and therefore they carry these irrational impulses into adulthood.
I will remind any reader here that the human brain is only mature (i.e. fully developped in its more rational regions) when you reach the age of about 23/24. Awareness of that fact is necessary.
Was anyone as confused by this clip as me? One minute they were saying “we applaud their wokeism” and the next they were saying “but beware”. By the end of this clip I really couldn’t tell what they stood for.
ReplySCENARIO: You’re just a kid in school (learning CRT garbage) whilst the teacher/school admin are telling you to NOT LISTEN TO YOUR PARENTS. This scenario is called indoctrination with a side of radicalization. It leads to the dissolution of the family and dependency on the government for moral & ethical guidance.
Replypropoganda, indoctrination, public or pivate, it doesnt matter
its the substance that matters
ReplyDemocrats are like Nazis and communists. They always go for kids because they are easy to brainwash. Watch your kids guys. Dangerous people are “teaching” them. We can’t come together when the left is making everything (even obesity) about race and gender and calls everyone with a different opinion a racist.
ReplyNot a Bill fan, but he makes sense here. Schools are more liberal and force their narrative on students!
ReplyWhat is wrong with that lady? “Private schools are way more successful at education. Shut ’em down!” lol
ReplyOk, now talk about how YOUTUBE does the same.
ReplyAt @1:45, Maher says the main problem/shift in private schools (which leads to the consequences he describes with private school students taking up too many Harvard spots and media jobs), is that parents side with their student instead of the teachers and that there’s no moral teaching. They go on to talk about indoctrination taken over. I agree with all of that, but this is the exact same problem with public schools. So the public vs. private issue has nothing to do with the indoctrination issue. So, I don’t really understand Maher’s argument there that something needs to be done about private schools funneling kids into Ivy League schools and high-profile jobs because of all that. In my state of Indiana, parents are pulling their kids out of public school at an alarming rate BECAUSE of the indoctrination and sending them to private, usually religious, schools to avoid the left-wing and Marxist teaching. You could certainly argue that they’re abandoning one ideology for another, but at least it’s one the parents theoretically approve of. Many Christian parents I know who have avoided public school don’t have many solid options for private school (such as only having Catholic schools available but the families are Protestant or non-denominational), so they choose to homeschool for as much of their kids’ education. I think that sacrifices a potentially “quality” education for one that is lackluster but appropriate to their values. I’m not sure I buy arguments that private schools give better educations overall than public schools, but I think the institutional freedom present in schools unaffiliated with the government have the potential for higher standards, and I certainly think homeschooling is the most probable way to ensure your child has a lackluster education and maybe some socialization issues. It’s not without its merits, though. Regardless, the biggest point here is that parents have lost their spine as the status quo has begun to shift, and it has revealed just how unprepared parents are to be involved in the education of their children. Hopefully this is a wake-up call, but none of it will matter if communities won’t stand up to this hyper-progressive, Marxist ideology permeating our institutions.
ReplyPrivate schools are private, why care? if you don’t like the school – don’t send your kid there, or pick one you like.
ReplyThe public ones tho…different story
“The climate of fear”
ReplyHow mom’s are devalued:
Reply“that’s how rich ‘your daddy’ needs to be” 3:15
‘your daddy’ … paternalism is Everywhere and casually accepted, just dropped in conversation and assumed and not often enough questioned or challenged or even, at least, pointed out
Reading writing and arithmetic or tomorrow morning
ReplyThere is a reason why private and charter schools out perform nearly all public institutions. They have standards….
Reply“Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.”
Reply-C. S. Lewis
Unfortunately today in many big cities and there’s suburbs, public schools are creating the “useful idiot”…. complements of the teachers unions
ReplyMeanwhile, in opposite land, liberals think private schools are the source of wokness and marxism. Funny stuff.
ReplyHave you seen American history books? All American education is some form of indoctrination stay woke
ReplyThat’s it, Bill Maher is a white supremacist, racist, who upholds the patriarchy in myriad ways.
ReplyCaitline is so elitist. Such a creepy human. American public schools are failing the country.
ReplyYeah I’m pretty sure it’s the public schools and our universities that are doing all the indoctrination.
ReplyThe experience of myself and my mother’s as Catholics, was indoctrination !!!
ReplyStop hiring radical wack job teachers! They need to keep their political leanings out of the classroom!
ReplyCaitlin Flanagan is an incredibly attractive, smart lady.
ReplyI find interesting that the main gripe is the “alleged” indoctrination into Marxist ideology. Sssssaaaaayyy what?!!? This was a good discussion until the spirit of McCarthy was channeled by the guests. I’m no socialist but I start twitching the moment everyone starts pulling out his or her crucifix, trying to banish the shadow of Marxism. But what made my stomach drop was Flanagan arguing to “get this crap out of your schools.” Somehow, this is exactly the type of action that we are all supposed to be against, removing unpopular ideas from the school system. No wonder Flanagan got the award “bitch of the century” not too long ago. The other guy is not even worth my mentioning his name or commenting on.
ReplyTime to start firing Marxist teachers.
ReplyWell finally! we are hearing a full-throated rejection of the woke agenda and exposing it’s authoritarian roots. About time.
ReplyCrying out loud, it was the private schools that were literally the only schools in some states that have even provided kids with education during the so-called “pandemic.”
ReplyAre private schools the same as Catholic Schools?? Catholic school is where the Nun whacks you with a ruler and the Priest molests you?????
ReplyNo parents any more.
ReplyAssuming people don’t also learn critical thinking and multiple perspectives… foh with the anti intellectual shit, never thought I would hear it from this show
ReplyI’m on the exact opposite side of this conversation. I have a four year old boy that is going to start school soon and I am considering private school so he won’t be indoctrinated by this new woke culture. I raise him to be respectful but confident and that is seen as a problem in today’s society. I feel they are talking about the elite private schools but this only makes up a small percentage of those types of schools.
ReplyWTF is “WOKE”?
ReplyStart to speak out!!
ReplyBill Maher: one of the few left on the left that should be taken seriously.
ReplyGrowing up, if there was an issue with teachers, it was always assumed to be my fault which wasn’t accurate either. Gen X’er.
ReplyPublic schools are far worse regarding propaganda, indoctrination, and unquestionable radical ideologies being crammed into young minds. BUT, now the radical ideologies are basically everywhere and the opposition to it is directly censored in almost all MSM.
Replyshutting down schools. what a douchebag
ReplyPublic schools are your biggest indoctrination systems that are around today! In Maryland, the Public Schools are teaching critical race theory and if parents speak out against it, the teachers are doxing them! No, Marxism isn’t being taught in Private Schools, it’s being taught in Public Schools and colleges!
Replywhy are these old ass fossils talking about schools they haven’t been in one for decades.
ReplyFinally your eyes are getting clearer lols. You guys better stop this idiotic woke bullshit before It consumes you all. There are better ways to fight for social justice but this bullshit right now going on in America like cancel culture and 1 way to think or get fired is rubbish. Only a communist country does that unless America is no longer the land of the free
Replythey are not teaching kids to be marxists in private schools lmfao
ReplyHe might have a show but will never contribute to the greater benefit of mankind. Americans need to stop glorifying entertainers. We need to go back to a time where scientists were revered and entertainers had to really work hard and be unique to be recognised.
ReplySays the word indoctrination and then the audience claps…. o the irony
ReplyAnyone else notice- What’s with the litter, paper scraps? all over the huge table at 0:31 ?
ReplyConservatives have been screaming this for years…welcome to the party I guess..
ReplyAmericans/the West are completely lost, being conquered from within the mind.
ReplyI had much better schooling in private schools, wasn’t even close. I think its more that the expectations are higher than anything. I went to three different high schools and without a doubt the best schooling I got was from private school. For reference im Jewish and went to a catholic school, I didn’t find it indoctrinating. I even had religion class which was respectful to my beliefs while teaching their own. Just my take.
ReplyLOL! Just a bunch of old dinosaurs complaining who clearly never spent a second in a school once they graduated. Yeah, that’ll really get the work done. How about you sit in a few days of learning in a bunch of schools at all levels so you actually know what the fuck you’re complaining about? Christ, can you ask stop sucking all the oxygen out of the room already so we can FINALLY move on from your Cold War bullshit?
ReplyIt’s beyond schools now. Those kids are hitting Corporations and brining Marxism with them. The crazy part is they think THEY are intellectuals educating colleagues on truths……nobody is correcting or debating them is what’s sad. In a corporation you just keep your mouth shut and let them whine
ReplyAnd private schools aren’t a way of indoctrination? How they separate you and isolate you in you socioeconomic bubble? How they send their snotty bastards to colleges that then join a frat or sorority that comprise them in an Epstein style way?
ReplyThis is absolutely correct. I worked around uni students, and there is a distinct disconnect with reality.
ReplyDonald Trump wanted to give us vouchers so we could choose the schools we think best to meet our values but you thought he was evil
ReplyAmericans need to wake up and distinguish between fighting for equality & woke indoctrination of equity. Equity is not equality.
ReplyI love how Bill is being a true liberal and going against the far left lunacy who will ruin our country and culture if they’re successful.
ReplyI didnt realize how much money Philips Exeter but I can say it does look like a billion dollar high school
ReplyAs usual, the elite do NOT want to leave people be and make their own choices according to their means. OMG leave us alone!!!!
ReplyAnd they really think that their social justice indoctrination camps, aka, public schools, are better huh?
ReplyIndoctrination? The entire system relies on indoctrination of the educated. It has for years.
ReplyMy kids will not be going to public school
ReplyThe American branch of the international left, appears to prefer the communist doctrine of political correctness over, our constitutional driven protection of individual rights.
ReplyEpiscopal schools disseminate, which I found out with my black grandson.
ReplyI literally won’t have kids unless I can afford to send them to private school. Why? Because the No Child Left Behind has made teaching all about doing well on state testings instead of actual learning. 4 exams EVERY year and if your school doesn’t improve you’re at risk of losing funding? F that. At private school at least the kids are actually learning and not having their experience tied to federal tax dollars.
ReplyWhen Bill Maher is against wokeness, and the crap is selling, its scary times…
Reply0:27 The people who send their kids to preparatory schools don’t have any typical, significant amount of their tax money going towards the education of their own children. What about home schooling, hmmm? That’s most certainly private… …and don’t get me wrong; I’m sure there is plenty of unconscious shmoozing going on in the social circles of private education which can eventually cause billions of dollars in economic dysfunctions… but trying to do away with the option of being able to send your children somewhere that is not based on your immediate geographic location is a freedom that would not be good to do away with. You lose diversity in such an environment. If there is a funding issue that needs to be addressed, then I think the focus should be on taxes, tax breaks, and the financing of private education… The focus should not be on doing away with any school which is not governmentally run.
Also, plenty of preparatory schools have accelerated curriculums which are more demanding and time consuming than standard public school curriculums. If there isn’t a solid AP program for you to choose for your children (which hopefully they have qualified for), this lady might not be going to solve any funding problems that generated or helped perpetuate such a conflict. You could always simply move to China or North Korea to completely avoid the existence of privatized K-12 education. They are much more homogenous in their doings. I’m sure they’ll let you right on in… … 2:43 Speaking of communism, which holds high correlation to an uninhibited control of cultural institutions…
3:07 While I do think that this kind of unconscious idealism does exist with some of the people in preparatory schools, it also undoubtably exists with the majority of the rest of the population. Some of the disproportionate existence of this behavior within preparatory school environments likely exists due to the fragile nature of the public’s reaction to mainstream media, easily establishing reactions and perceptions which can be ascribed to cultivation theory. When perceptions of individuals and groups becomes stereotyped and oversimplified, guarding one’s group and especially one’s self can also become an oversimplified realm of strategy. 4:31 Even though I have seen the small minority of education- that is, the environment of a preppy environment- I certainly did not become psychologically melded into that collective (semi)consciousness and generate the same belief system. I wonder how much individual stances are nurtured in different public school environments, too, even if they are in defiance of mainstream norms. For me, the main difference between my preparatory school and the public schools in my area was the quality of the equipment and the smell of the HVAC systems. (It is harder to focus on your work when surrounded by moldy, smelly air.) I realize there is the aspect of brain drain with quality of teachers, too… …but that should be rectified by paying public school teachers more for good work, not screwing over private school systems.
ReplySaying stuff that the sniveling coward Colbert would never say.
Replythey really need to fire their cleaning crew.
ReplySpoken like two individuals who come from very affluent backgrounds and were force-fed neoliberal exceptionalism from a very young age.
Your unquestioning allegiance to unethical, unregulated capitalism is glaring in both of your informal declarations to your past scholastic achievements.
ReplyIs education a right or a privilege or a standard now adays? Are we treating education as what it’s supposed to be or are we trying to force political agendas on our children?
ReplyIndoctrination is both in public and private schools.
ReplyI want to hear from liberals do they understand that their politics moved country in this madness.
ReplyThat baby Marxist line really got me. It’s like, no, no part of what you just said comes anywhere close to a rational, reality-based thought. Rich people do not breed Marxists, and even if they did, it’s not because Marxism only works for the rich. It’s literally the opposite of what that lady was saying – the whole point of Marxism is to eliminate class distinctions and elevate the standard of living for the bottom rung of society (the proletariat). And of course, Bret Stephens reflexively claps and laughs like a seal doing a trick at that horrendously stupid point. This is insular groupthink gaslighting us all about what the meanings of words are.
ReplyMost teachers are now forcing their political beliefs on children. The remote schooling during lockdown allowed me to listen in on their radical teachings.
ReplyFake academics popular here
ReplyRight and left are doing the same thing
ReplyWe got to train the right teachers
ReplyWe train talkers with empty brains and souls
ReplyWTF? You have to be rich in order for Marxism to be of benefit? What bizarro world is this? Rich people effing *hate* Marxism b/c it advocates that they stop taking gigantic shits on the lower classes. I have no clue why rich private schools would be teaching Marxism but I find it hilarious that rich people are paying big money to send their kids to schools where they are taught to despise their own wealth b/c of how it prevents anyone else from more than basic subsistence. This is the weirdest critique of private schools I’ve ever seen. Most private schools are indoctrination mills into superstition and belief in Hell.
ReplyPrivate schools have been religious indoctrination mills since they were first invented and *now* all of a sudden you’re going to attack private schools as “indoctrination” mills because fewer than 100% of them are religion indoctrination mills? So timely, Bill…but don’t forget to blame Bernard for Trump you ass-hat.
Reply“The lessons they are teaching are grotesque”
ReplyGrotesque how? They’re teaching that black people aren’t to be shot in the back by cops? Is that “grotesque”? Give us an example of “grotesque”, Flanagan.
“People have to start calling bullshit on it”
ReplySee, your problem, tennis-court, is that the 99% are no longer going to let you rob us blind. We are calling bullshit on *your* order, the one which steals from the poor to give to the rich and indoctrinates children to *accept it.* Your time is over, tennis-court. Whine all you want.
“Fair play and openness to a variety of points of view”
ReplyWell, geez, tennis-court, that is all we’ve been asking for. See, in the old days the *only* point of view on offer in K-12 is “rah rah rah America! Columbus is good! Black and brown people are unworthy! We’ve always been at war with someone and this is how it should be! Capitalism requires that we conquer the world, so lets get to it!”
That’s the *one* point of view we’ve ever heard from *all* of our institutions. I’m very *happy* that you are willing to have more than one point of view, there, tennis-court. Its about fucking time.
Hahahah. Indoctrination huh? Sure. And public school is just good old fashioned unbiased education.
ReplyWhen people who never really read Mary’s work talk about “Marxism”.
Marx wrote about Capitalism and how it could be improved by not exploiting workers but treating them like humans so they can evolve and as drivers of improvement of the economy.
Socialism and capitalism are a married unit – and private interest is the enemy of both.
ReplyI’m getting the feeling its too late.
ReplyMy children went to high school in the same county where I went to high school (outside of Cleveland, OH). My children’s high school education was infinitely better than mine….and it is Not. Even. Close. Zero debate needed.
ReplyCaitlin Flanagan is one of the most sexy women inUS media
ReplyThey were trying to teach my 4 year old how to write an entire sentence in spanish on day 1 , not kidding!!! This is moronic , I love spanish , I love writing , but my 4 year old didn’t know his ABCs much less how to write a word or a fucking sentence! What the fuck is wrong with the disconnect between not even knowing how to teach
ReplyIndoctrination! What a great word to describe the medical tyranny we are living in.
ReplyWoketard virus is worse than covid
ReplyI learned the three R’s all through school finally graduating in ’74. Morality, courtesy, responsibly, and conduct came from home. I see kids now (about ages 4 to 12) just acting greedy, possessive, with no respect for adults or parents, using foul language not caring who hears it. This isn’t always the parents fault. I blame public and private schools for this. For example: If you hear something your parents tell you that you don’t like, tell a teacher, call 911. (In other words, rat on your parents for trying to discipline you). So parents become passive, afraid, and willing to turn total rearing up to schools, (and ultimately government). Of course, not all kids are like this. Love your kids, teach them manners, respect, courtesy, regard for other peoples thoughts, most of all, a simple sense of pride in themselves. (Example: If your child’s team wins a baseball game, a reward may come. If they lose, they are not winners too. You tell them they tried hard, but with hard work, we’ll win next time) If all are winners, and nobody loses, this is a founding ideology for greed. So, when I see this behavior from children in public (over the last few years), I have to hope that parents will stand up against this insidious indoctrination.
ReplyI learned the three R’s all through school finally graduating in ’74. Morality, courtesy, responsibly, and conduct came from home. I see kids now (about ages 4 to 12) just acting greedy, possessive, with no respect for adults or parents, using foul language not caring who hears it. This isn’t always the parents fault. I blame public and private schools for this. For example: If you hear something your parents tell you that you don’t like, tell a teacher, call 911. (In other words, rat on your parents for trying to discipline you). So parents become passive, afraid, and willing to turn total rearing up to schools, (and ultimately government). Of course, not all kids are like this. Love your kids, teach them manners, respect, courtesy, regard for other peoples thoughts, most of all, a simple sense of pride in themselves. (Example: If your child’s team wins a baseball game, a reward may come. If they lose, they are not winners too. You tell them they tried hard, but with hard work, we’ll win next time) If all are winners, and nobody loses, this is a founding ideology for greed. So, when I see this behavior from children in public (over the last few years), I have to hope that parents will stand up against this insidious indoctrination.
ReplyI went to public school and that didn’t prevent me from getting a PhD in biochemistry.
ReplyI love when there is only a trickle of applause. Basically shows that what was said, went over about 99% the audience’s head.
ReplyBill went from having Richard Wolff on, to these guys.
ReplySad.
As if this mentality doesn’t exist in public schools??
ReplyCritical Theory came to US colleges from the Frankfurt School in Germany 100 years ago. They played the long game and now Cultural Marxism is winning bigly. Critical Theory is in Hollywood, Academe, K-12, Corporations, and it has entered the US military thanks to the Democrat Party who completely embrace Critical Theory.
ReplyIt’s disgusting that our children are being indoctrinated in left wing crap in our schools.
ReplyProbably getting more woke indoctrinations in schools, under Biden and Harris.
ReplyWhat exactly are they indoctrinating kids? Patriotism? The anthem lol that’s indoctrination
ReplyForgot Marxism was the dominant ideology in the US society…
ReplyIs that really the indoctrination at the moment?
We must decide whether you want your kids schooled or educated. Our current govt run public schools are not educating our kids. It is a failed model.
ReplyBill Mar is one of the only people on the left actually standing up to the woke mob. And the mob has not been able to cancel him…yet. Good for him.
ReplyCultural Marxism and the Frankfurt school destroyed our nation
ReplyOur American parents damn sure arnt scared there angry
ReplyJust to be clear. Karl Marx believed that a situation where the haves exploited the have nots was unsustainable and could only lead to a revolution of the proletariat (the majority, working population). He believed that socialism (where the exploitation is not allowed to run wild) was the only sustainable way to go, economically. Marxist ideas absolutely do not benefit the very rich kids and their families. If Marxist ideas are taught in the fancy schools, I would imagine that they would be presented as flawed and dangerous.
ReplyThe teachers unions have to much power. Wokeism runs the public school system.
ReplyThis is the perfect example of the left accusing others of what they themselves are actually doing hahaha.
ReplyThe excessive clapping makes this show unbearable
ReplyI go to Bill Maher expecting to get leftist talking points, and I hear conservative arguments…And it is so refreshing.
ReplyNonsense.
ReplyWhat’s up with decorating with a bunch of shards of metal all over the table?
ReplyPrivate schools teach Fascism and intolerance as American. Fuck private schools.
ReplyI wish you guys gave more examples of this “woke” thing. I still have no idea what it is, and it sounds like the rest of the world does. And what is “virtue signaling?
ReplyMy word, back in 1991 I thought this was over, commies are a fuckin hydra, you cut one head and two grow back!
ReplyI suspect that private school is very different in the US than in the UK. Seems to vary in reputation depending on the country. I know that private schools in Hong Kong are terrible and are for students that don’t make the grade to enter a state-funded school.
I went to a private school in Scotland and it was great in high-level teaching and with no ideology or politics in the education. I believe I wouldn’t be where I am without the level of education I received which was way higher than what the standard comprehensive state-funded schools provide. I had to take an exam to enter the private school and my state school teacher at the time did not have the expertise to prepare me for it so I had to get a tutor. The level was basically a full grade higher than the standard.
ReplyThe term “Woke” has lost all meaning once conservative and neo-liberal reactionaries got a hold of it. Ask them to define it…and you get all kinds of strawman crap. The whole idea was simple: there are systemic injustices that are operating around us, be aware of them. Now it’s become a boogeyman that people who resent not being able to use slurs against marginalized people anymore label anything that challenges the status quo. As long as they can rail against their outrage du jour “Woke” (and it’s cousin “Cancel Culture”, they don’t have to actually argue the merits of continuing the inequalities of the status quo. They’ve just become buzzwords intended to elicit a kneejerk response without actually being responsible for engaging the topic of social justice in a thoughtful way.
ReplyShe wants to ban certain private schools. What a loon. Government has no authority.
ReplyHey
ReplyIs it Opposite Day?
ReplyWhat does Bill Maher know about school rooms.. he’s never had children.
ReplyNot sure if Bill Maher is qualified to weigh in…he calls all children “brats” for one….
ReplyPrivate Catholic school follows Jesuit education system heavily focuses on Science and Math, the religious curriculum was explicitly taught in way that we could answer challenges to the faith as in we were introduced to the harshest criticisms of the faith and in turn I know more atheists who graduated from my Catholic high school then I know from the heavily Protestant and Methodist public school with 1000+ more people in the same small town American city* sorry for no punctuation, I am drunk accept the stream of consciousness
ReplyWhat a surprise these were the exact things the conservatives were telling to be wrong about since the beginning. But NYT and Atlantic supported the left so now face the consequences.
ReplyThe purpose of education is to replace an empty mind with an open one.
ReplyLook at the false title of this video. How about “Public Schools: Education or Indoctrination?”
ReplyI still fail to see how both religious & conservative doctrine or left-wing filters, values and doctrine can be good without moderation.
I WORKED IN A 30GRANT…MORE LIKE A DAY CARE FOR BIG KIDS…KARENS AND DARENS IN THE MAKING. THEY HAVE TO CALL YOU BY FIRST NAME LIKE EQUALS….”PROGRESSIVE” WAS LITERALLY THEIR SELLING POINT…MORE LIKE PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE.. ACADEMICALLY LOW SALARIES LOW ONE BATHROOM FOR ALL ADULTS…DANCE TEACHER USING SUBTLE SLAVERY SONG OVER AND OVER COTTON PICKING DANCE LIKE ITS FUN NORMAL…ART TEACHER SCARY DUDE LOVED NEANDERTHALS LITERALLY HIS CLASS HUGE AND MESSY BUT SCIENCE TEACHER IN A CLOSET…I HAD NO CLASSROOM..TRAVELED.. FELT LIKE DAVE CHAPELLE IN A SURREAL BIZARRO WORLD…CHARTERS ARE NO BETTER..STICK TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS. KIDS HAVE A LOT MORE SPACE RESOURCES AND CREDENTIALED PROFESSIONALS ALL OTHERS DON’T NEED TO HIRE ANY CREDENTIALED TEACHERS
ReplyPrivate Schools is all about networks for elites to remain in power nothing more. these people dont believe in woke ideology they just use it to stay in power.
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