Bill explores the woke philosophy of “equality of outcomes,” and how it plays into an increasingly vapid, entitled, famous-for-nothing culture.
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Bill explores the woke philosophy of “equality of outcomes,” and how it plays into an increasingly vapid, entitled, famous-for-nothing culture.
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He’s wrong about it being a pure meritocracy. A lot of it has to do with labels and names. Even the best artist aren’t producing hits reliability. Even the Beatles have had bad and good songs. But a bad song by the Beatles would be played on Spotify more times than a good song by some obscure band because the Beatles are far more popular. So more people will search for them.
Even if you’re the most talented artist in the world and you record objectively the best song in the world and put it on Spotify, you won’t be #1. Because no one knows about you and no one knows to search for this song. While Billy Eilish can publish any song and it will get millions of ‘views’ just because she’s famous.
Jordan Peterson spoke about this on Bill Maher’s show I think… He said that’s a kind of a law of nature, only a small percentage of authors have 90 book sales, and only a small percentage of actors get the most desired roles… Even on Reddit, only a small amount of Sub Reddits have the most subscribers etc.
ReplySeriously, how much of Bill’s act is, “These kids today…!” Like, 70%? 80%?
ReplyI got one of those trophs too. I hated it.
ReplyBill Maher was once considered liberal. The insane way the US is descending, he will soon be considered a far right extremist for daring to criticise the barbarity.
ReplyIt’s your fellow Democrats/Liberal with the Left’s urgings are the proponents of these ideologies, “woke” ideology.
ReplyIts funny how he is basically preaching Jordan Peterson here. Its about competency. Those who are actually good do better. Whoda thunk?
ReplyIt may not be about who is most talented, but it is about who is listened to. Talent is subjective. Numbers are not. “The Best” has never and will never drive the industry. People like what they like and there is no amount of bitching and whining that’s going to change that. If you find your niche, you are lucky. Be happy that you found it. But you can’t force it upon the masses. It is that way and will always be that way.
ReplyHe just explained the Pareto Distribution, a law literally woven into the fabric of life…
ReplyChuck Klosterman once wrote something I’ve never forgotten.
ReplyGarth Brooks has sold more records than Bob Dylan not because he’s better but because more people can IDENTIFY with Garth Brooks.
Like Jordan Peterson lite over here
ReplyBill, you’re wrong.
ReplySure, in theory (and practical) there are a ton of great artists out there…but as long as they don’t get airtime on the radio, and/or are not played in the clubs, the vast majority of people won’t hear about them.
The streaming services that – in theory – enable everyone to listen to every kind of music, have the same problem as – let’s say – Steam has as a (or better: THE) distributing platform for PC games: nobody is able to sieve through all the content on offer, to find the “good” stuff among all the crap.
So, in the end, it’s always the same games from the same developers and publishers that get bought and played the most.
Exactly as is the case in the music industry.
And btw: I put “good” into quotation marks, because “good” and “bad” are always subjective when it comes to taste in music (or movies, or games, or books, or…)
I had people praise albums to me as “absolute must hears”…only to find them to be absolute crap personally.
And I’m pretty sure, my records collection contains quite a few albums which I absolutely love, but which other people equally absolute will hate.
There is no objectivity in taste.
The myth about becoming an internet celebrity, and how you can be famous for so little is a ploy. It has all been used to keep people in a placated position, contented to make material, convinced that fame is a day away, so they can be distracted from the reality that true opportunities have dried up.
Decent well paying careers have gone, occupied by a generation that won’t move on and let new talent into the market; higher education has vastly outpriced itself beyond the means of those with modest incomes; and any kind of political position pretty much requires you to be part of an ever more exclusive club of rich white men to even run. Any real kind of possibility for true growth has been swindled away from the average person. Equality of outcomes exists to keep them from realising this, and it’s the only thing to keep them servile enough to participate, believing one day they’re going to make it big.
This is the American dream and, let’s face it, the dream for a lot of countries where capitalism destroyed any true meritocracy. But it’s not a dream, it’s just the philosophy of lottery.
ReplySociety is truly gone so upside down Bill Maher makes perfect sense what a Time
ReplyThe irony of Bill pushing Critical Race Theory a couple weeks ago now complaining about equality of outcome.
He apparently doesn’t realize that both of those branches sprouted from the same ideological tree.
There is such things as the Pareto Distribution and Price’s Law.
ReplyPLEASE reconsider the word artist & relate to the word performer instead !
Replyor if you wish CIRCUS PERFORMER ?.
Parris owes nothing to anyone. She only excels at being vapid, entitled, and famous for nothing. She is simply idolized by a vapid, entitled, and desperately-wanting-to-be-famous-for-nothing people.
ReplyYou know things are bad when Bill Maher starts to sound conservative
ReplyFirst of all, no one watched the Grammys.
ReplyBill is so red pilled now. Cool.
Replynow apply this to critical race theory. That’s where the problem lies, not the music industry.
ReplyThe left has gone so far off the rails that Bill Maher is becoming what could be labelled as “moderately conservative” on many cultural issues. Bill and so many liberals are finally seeing what disastrous consequences the ideas they’ve championed and advocated for so long are having on our (Western) societies and especially on the (Western) youth at large! I hope and pray that this insanity will soon cease, an effort which would be helped by Hollywood stars like Maher coming forward and admitting that they were wrong and telling people not to commit the same mistakes!
ReplyTom MacDonald is completely independent and has blown up massively. Why? Because he makes damn good music.
ReplyHow crazy does the world has to be that according to today’s standards this man is just a step short from being a Nazi !
ReplyAs a conservative,
ReplyI can’t say that I often agree with Bill. But this time . . . maybe for the first time I can recall . . . he and I see something in what seems like exactly the same way.
Kylie is Built More like a Man, then Her Father!
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!
ReplyMaybe we should get rid of all auto tune and then we can see how they really sound. Its easy to make your voice sound better but have you ever noticed that when you hear there real voice it is always so bad.
ReplyWelcome to reality bill.
ReplyBill missed the chance to draw a connection between the market and what drives the Grammy nominations.
ReplyBill appears to be regaining his mental stability. I do miss the sanity that Trump brought to politics.
ReplyBill is starting to get played on right wing media again.
ReplyThis guys in the wrong political party….
ReplyAgain I’ll say a broken clock is correct at least 2 times a day.
ReplySorry Bill, these are your people, I left the left when they started calling free speech and truth telling right wing positions. You an I agree on many things, I’m basically a 90’s democrat who’s pro 2nd amendment, but the only political affiliation still available that supports liberty and the constitution is what the current iteration of the left calls “far right”. I’m glad that now Trump is out of office you’re able to see reality. Had Trump still been in office, however, our schools would be prevented from teaching our kids to hate each other based on race or encouraging them to embrace segregation. It’s not conservatives who are trying to strip us of our rights, it’s not conservatives who show up at people’s homes or try to get them fired and banned from everything. You were blinded by Trump derangement syndrome and now the new guy is meeting with historians to figure out how fast and extreme he can fundamentally remake our country in the image of the squad without starting a second Civil War.
ReplyAnother Conservative argument made. Well done Bill!
ReplyCame for the comments but you yanks are so politicized that I definitely don’t want to be at any of your parties, jesus, boredom is a kind word.
ReplyTurning an unenthusiastic blowjob into an empire is called empowerment now.
Reply2:50 no- the music being heard does not mean quality or meritocracy, it can also mean money thrown at stations for air time. Not saying that there are no real artists in the Billboard’s 100, but there are unknowns that are excellent at playing an instrument but will never get a night at Carnegie Hall. And that’s okay too. Kurt Vonnegurt said that you shouldn’t do something to become rich and famous, do it because of the experience of it. . . . the trophy is that you learned to do something.
ReplyI wish Billy would look at the role he played in building the culture we’re currently in. Theres no such thing as non-religious people…it simply manifests itself in atypical ways when you shit on traditional religions for decades.
ReplyI think I will actually be alive to see the day that Bill Maher turns into a conservative…..
ReplyZionist pos
ReplyMeritocracy does not explain why certain artists are popular, consumers listen to artists that have no talent what so ever.
ReplyLiberalism built this. YOU built this. Admit to it.
ReplyAh, Bill ripping off George Carlin.
ReplyMy only quibble is the notion that the less popular are somehow not talented. There’s a LOT more going on than that. A lot of it is access to promotion resources.
There’s a lot of good stuff that isn’t well known. A lot less gate keeping is a good thing, but that’s not the only dynamic. However, yes, most musicians are only mediocre, so I can only quibble, not disagree outright.
ReplyI don’t understand how Bill can have this insight but then shit the bed on his other foolish left progressive perspectives. No cognitive logic.
ReplyIn a perfect world people will continue listening to what ever the hell we want to, keep your bullshit out my earbuds
ReplyWell said Bill. You need to take that Red Pill. Democrats are illiberal
ReplyWe can thank the left for all this entitlement mentality that drags along chaos and zero accountability. Maher sounds damn near like a moderate compared to the rabid lunatics on his side.
ReplyIlluminati puppet
ReplyBills a dirty commie
ReplyBill the Hypocrites Hypocrite. Turning on your liberal agendas? Bill is in fact…..Trevor Noah.
ReplyLOL when Bill Maher gets cancelled. Its gonna happen
ReplyKudos to Bill Maher for calling out liberals. If the conservatives called out there own, then maybe we can fix America
Replypareto principle
ReplyThe problem is that the Grammy’s routinely awards unpopular artists because they have friends in the industry while artists who sell the most are often not given awards.
Reply‘Influencer’ used to be an internal term for NGOs, charities and UN agencies, referring to popular musicians, actors and others with public followings, being an ‘influencer’ was an incidental part of succeeding in something, now people are literally trying to be ‘influencers’ with no effort to succeed at anything.
Bill is attacking his own audience. Risky
ReplyBill, your audience is having a hard time keeping up with you.
ReplyBill as right as you are, your like ten years behind on this shit
ReplyI remember playing soccer, and we were horrible.. and they gave us trophies. I didn’t want it, why reward us? Half of our team never showed up to practice.. and then we get trophies. Know what my friends did the next year?? They barely tried, because they got rewarded always no matter what. This kid in grade 12 had received a 22% in calculus class… Because he never showed up, learned nothing.. only took the class because it was a prerequisite. Then had the nads to complain to his parents… Teacher had to pass him to shut them up… Gave him a “test” and now he works for AMD.. somehow. Lol
ReplyThis conversation changes once we start bring race and other identity groups into the discussion.
ReplyThis guy’s an idiot for taking money to criticize Trump over the years
ReplyI’ve given up on Bill Maher, I’d love to get hopeful watching this… but I’ll just be disappointed.
ReplyBill sounds like a conservative, here. It took guts for him to state an opinion that might cancel him!
Replybill do you want to tell us Michael Jackson was more talented Roger Waters ? Because more people listen that garbage Michael Jackson than most talented Musicians. I dont argue against you point, you are right mostly, but please dont call a bullshit talent. People just have bad taste and they love shit. Have you listen rap music , hip hop music ?
ReplyI agree with this sentiment, except that music is the wrong example. 80% of all mainstream music for the last 30 years has been made by 5 people who monopolies it. The best are not at the top of this game, they’re selected. Pitch corrected models are not famous for their talent.
ReplyA lot of my favourite musicians died with day jobs.
Anyone who disliked this is a person I want to avoid.
Replygood one Bill that was hard to write
ReplySo clever and urbane, Bill’s really funny now as he rips the woke left.
ReplyTried watching politicians bickering & complaining with internet people. Just watched: Christopher Hitchens- Programmatic Specificity We Can Believe In (2010). The panelists were well spoken, interesting, funny & informative. Reading my first Christopher Hitchens book- god is not Great. Enjoying the book.
ReplyYes sometimes I agree with him.
ReplyI can’t believe Bill Maher is actually starting to talk like a conservative… pretty soon he’s gonna wear camo and go fishing.
Replythank you democrat’s for ruining our children…
ReplyPareto distribution
ReplyYet NO Discussion about the So Called “Meritocracy” when discussing the Achievements and Pitfalls of the RACES of Mankind…..
ReplyBill is way off on this one. In fact, this is the one time in the history of the music business where talent as nothing to do with success and having no talent does not hurt a music career. I think Bill lost a couple steps during pandemic.
ReplyThis is awesome
ReplyHe’s talking about his audience and mainstream liberals. The irony. And his trained parrot audience cheers not knowing it lol.
Replyso what bills saying is, he’s owned by better pod casters than his own show..gotcha.
ReplyGlad to see Bill is coming to his senses.
Replylittle bit to late to complain now. you reap what you sow you were part of the problem now you try to get mad at it 😛 you gonna get canceled man. They can still call you all the names in the book and turn you into the next Trump if they want. Media can do wahtever they want cause they have 80 million dumb asses who believe anything.
Reply“You peeepol, okayy” – Kyle Dunnigan
ReplyI actually enjoyed Bill and agreed with him. Hell, I may have to try him more often.
ReplyCareful Bill. Your cancel culture leftist buddies will be coming after you next.
Replythe gap only seem bigger because more music is being released than before. there no barrier to entry anymore. on millions of song released each year how can we all listen to them that makes no sense.
ReplyBill proves that even Reptilians have a sense of humor.
ReplyFor some reason Bill has improved a lot lately. . .
ReplyIdle hands are the tools of the devil. a lot of young people want to be idle in life (being paid for doing nothing). idle, idol. IDLE=IDOL. So, let me rephrase, a lot of young people want to be the tools of the devil.
ReplyImagine a world where Bill Mayer is the voice of reason and sanity. Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.
ReplyThe delightful silk intracellularly add because distributor feraly dry past a level train. juvenile, craven cost
ReplyBill sounds so much smarter when he voices any of his remotely right wing opinions.
ReplyTell me what the government does well.
ReplyWhat did you think you were getting when you voted for Biden? You’re not using your considerable brains, Bill. And if you don’t use them, you’re a dummy without the excuse of an actual dummy.
The White girl, Billy Elish, had a script to try and give her prize to one of the Black ladies. Sickening.
ReplyThe rest of us have known this for a decade, way to be on top of the issues you hack.
ReplyHe still a leftest POS
ReplyMaher gathers the kindling and then complains about the fire. Talk about criticizing the machine you’re a cog in. His show is a participation trophy for his mediocre jokes.
ReplySorry Bill but you are really wrong about The Rolling Stones article
ReplyNice try, Bill. You’ve been as instrumental for creating this truncated, dissolute “where’s my free stuff?!” society as anyone on msnbc.
The day you or any Bolshevik accepts that today’s holy cows such as “income inequality” and “systemic racism” are merely variants of the dysfunctional participation trophy spiral you bemoan, then you will truly understand what reality is.
Freedom is also the freedom to fail and in the vast majority of cases, the culprit is in the mirror.
ReplyHow can you say we live in a meritocracy and then immediately bitch about Paris Hilton and Kylie Jenner? That’s what the rolling stone article was about. We DON’T live in a meritocracy. Used to like Bill but his brain is rotting
ReplyPareto effect. Matheuw principle.
ReplyEqually of outcomes is dumb. Ie. I can’t play ball as good as others. I am short.
ReplyAt the age of 65, Bill Maher is finally starting to grow up and realise that there is something wrong with socialism. Good for you Bill. I realised it when I was about 10yo.
ReplyI got a participation ribbon once and when I realized what I had gotten I promptly threw it in the trash didn’t give a damn who saw me do it.
ReplyIt’s not about the talent. It’s about the hype.
ReplyPareto distribution
ReplyBill Maher goes home and puts his Adelle CD on every night while taking a candle lit bath
ReplyRed Pill Bill is waking up
Replyhe is what we call an ideal… its not left-wing, right-wing its right or wrong
Reply*applauding*
Bill Maher is a BIDEN bumboy.
ReplyOh Bill, you may be sounding more like a wiser conservative these days. But you sir are every bit as responsible for this generation of degenerates as Paris Hilton is.
ReplyCan’t take this man seriously. Sure he is right what he is saying here, but he just parrots what other non leftist are saying all the time. The same kind of people he smears and vilifies constantly.
ReplyGrammies somehow continue getting worse.
ReplyBet he still votes Democrat…
ReplyBoy he changed his tune
ReplyBill Maher has certainly changed his tune
ReplyMaher has been pulling a 180 for a while now.
ReplyI can not believe that when Paris Hilton was in the spot light is now considered back in the day.
ReplyDidn’t see Foxes and Fossils at the Grammy’s? Oh yeah, that’s right, only the most “Meritoriously Talented” artists deserve awards.
ReplyDon’t let this little slice of conservative thinking fool you – Bill is still a Marxist through and through. He supported the lies and the fraud that put Harris in the presidency.
ReplyCareful BIll, those influencers/losers came up with the concept of Cancel. Oh wait, he’s already been canceled. Carry on my friend. lol
ReplyAs he often is, Bill is wrong. Its not that the few really good muscians are that much better then the rest, its that humans, especially young ones, crave a sense of belonging and then can get that, or simulate that, by the shared experience of a song. Or through the shared fandom. So he is wrong that unstreamed talent are unstreamed just because they suck. Its just human nature at fault, not the music industry.
ReplyWhat an a-hole.
ReplyYou’re wrong Bill. Of course the Pareto Principle exists… but WHO decides what music makes it? It’s not merit. It’s money. And once you make money, because of money, it’s really easy to use that extra money to buy more money. If money dropped out of the equation… almost NONE of the top 20 would be the same.
ReplyWhen hes not crying about Trump he actually makes some good points
ReplyBill says he is in favor of Equality of Opportunity but not Outcomes, but the reason Equality of Outcomes is growing in strength is because everyone has and will never be given Equal Opportunities! I mean its not like he is going to let one of his joke writers come on stage and take credit for their own material. And the famous singers have routinely bought or stolen songs from unknown artists, its not like they are going to admit someone else wrote the song and sings it better.
ReplyLost at the end bill
ReplyI’m not the biggest fan of Bill, but I have to admit, he’s one of the most consistent liberals when it comes to his beliefs. I have to respect that. Hopefully he’ll pull some people back from the far left back to reality!
ReplyRolling Stones is 100% right about streaming. Maher sounds like a dinosaur who never heard of EDM (among other things). The one percent are hardly the most talented artists. They are the ones who are backed by million dollar marketing machines to convince you that they are talented, forcing their grandpa-approved music on all radio stations, buying likes and followers, and algorithmic bias in their favor on Spotify. You must have zero knowledge and appreciation of music to advance the success of 1% “top artists” as being based on any kind of meritocracy
ReplyI wonder if Bill Maher realizes that This Monologue singularly refutes the roots of Leftism. Fascinating.
ReplyWhen did Bill turn alt right?
Reply(Every time he tells the truth…which isn’t often)
Bill will become an Independent!.he won’t go all the way to becoming a Republican. but the Libertarian party will grow.Because the Democates are a Joke.
ReplyIt’s ok boomer
ReplyThe maddening cinema revealingly surprise because pantyhose presumably rob of a chief sharon. quaint, unarmed kangaroo
ReplyBill is forever tainted for me. Yeah he’s singing all this great stuff now but I will never forget how the man immediately tucked tail and ran when things got tough for free thinkers
ReplyGrammys, Elite American Musicians rewarding each other.
ReplyI agree that too many people think they deserve to be famous but algorithms and playlists are still gatekeeping on major streaming platforms which is a shame.
ReplyWhen a conservative says this, democrats eye’s glaze over. When Bill says it they all applaud. Go figure.
ReplyBased Bill
ReplyFor a guy that constantly shows disdain for conservative values, Maher has been espousing these values more and more frequently lately.
ReplyIf bill were conservative, he would be king…
ReplyI wouldn’t equate popularity with talent. Mcdonalds has the most popular burger on earth in terms of sales, but that doesn’t make it the “best” burger. They just have a better business plan and I imagine the music industry works the same way. Radio could play lots of different music, but rather they play the same songs on repeat for months at a time.
ReplyThe people that wrote that article about musicians should only be allowed to listen to the bottom 1 percent.
ReplyIf only you hadn’t attacked during 4 years the only man who stood against all of this. All that cleverness wasted on a useful idiot. What a clown you are, Bill.
ReplyGlad this aggressively milquetoast shit stays on cable TV where it belongs
ReplySo nice to be able to atch him again without it just being 99% “REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE TRUMP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE”
ReplyIt is actually because most people listen to featured playlists which are almost exclusive to mainstream artists. So streaming has pushed people away from browsing because they just choose a playlist that gies with their mood or more commonly what playlist will appease their “friends.”
Replyequality of outcomes = communism = very bad idea.
ReplyWhat enlightened generation raised and profits from these kids being vapid and self absorbed? Any guesses? What year was bill maher born again?
ReplyWhy is Bill still supporting the left? They are not on his side anymore.. they haven’t been in over 20 years.
ReplyHe’s a lib. But he’s smart, pays attention and seems, most importantly, to be intellectually honest, which is the rarest virtues today.
ReplyI love that Bill has been Red Pilled…
ReplyWhen meritocracy goes away – then the person operating on you may not be qualified or the person flying your plane may not be qualified
ReplyI love Bill Maher to extremes. Is he unwell or does he come to the show intoxicated ?. Why is his eyes bloodshot?
ReplyLike the top 20% of artists aren’t also making a good living off it.
ReplyI have a feeling one day he will just say fuck it and swallow the red pill.
ReplySounds like Maher has been finally watching some Jordan Peterson
ReplyI am starting to like Bill maher.
ReplyWhen did Bill become a conservative?
ReplyDid Rush Limbaugh write this for Bill before he died?
ReplyMaher 2024
ReplyWell listen Bill, you condem what society has become and your audience applauds, but it’s leftists like you that created this monster!
ReplyWhat a confused audience!
ReplyI respect him more and more
ReplyI think you’ve been in my head. Been thinking some of these things for a long time. Thanks for saying it outloud!
ReplySee Jordan Peterson on the Pareto Distribution.
Replyfinally I agree with him on something
ReplyWow Bill might be worth listening to based on the first 1 minute.
ReplySounds like Rolling Stone magazine is ran by your type of people these days Bill.
ReplyThe audience doesn’t quite know what to think.
ReplyGrammy Awards is about meritocracy? Maybe in part. But there are a lot of great musicians that continue to go unrecognized because they don’t have a bid audience, aren’t mainstream.
ReplyYou voted for this Bill! The Demacrats are pushing this shit! Merit lol should of voted Trump! Hypocrisy
ReplySeems like Jordan Peterson addressed equal outcome a couple of years ago.
ReplyI usually find Bill too liberal but he is right on the money. It drove me crazy that my kids got those “participation” trophies. so incredibly stupid. just like babying the kids with the incredibly stupid self esteem movement. Self esteem is earned through achievement, accomplishments. But while we dumb down our education system, at least our kids feel good about themselves.
Replydam bill! you have been Orange man bad for the last 4 years ,even going as far as hoping for a economical collapse so trump is not reelected . now we have a weekend at Bernies president , who is trying to install identitarian radicals to the administration . you think cancel culture is bad ? these people are trying to warp our constitution and make it law….now you got your way bill and have no right to complain about what is coming .
ReplyYIKES! Bill is starting to sound logical.
ReplyWatch the elites flip the narrative now.
ReplyThere will be one day bots will look at Bill Maher as an old conservative.
Replyfinally Bill is waking up to the insanity!
ReplyWith that attitude I’m definitely not going to listen to your music.
ReplyI see Bill’s Masonic left eye bruise is now in order! oh how the cretins get to play both sides unscathed….
ReplyNot sure if conservatives are moving towards Bill, or Bill is moving towards conservatives. What is certain is the left is going crazy.
ReplyBill is not a moderate, you are just patently insane.
ReplyBill, your convoluted piece misses the point. The music industry is run on promotion of certain artists regardless of their level of talent. It’s become a machine that churns out predigested packaged songs to appeal to certain demographics that are then force fed to everyone unfortunate enough to listen. It’s all about money and has little to do with creativity.
ReplyBIll is becoming a real clown. There are so many celebrated artists of the last 60 years who never got Grammys, and if you think today’s mainstream artists are talented, or got famous their on merit, and not through nepotism, payola or modelling talent, then you need your supposedly strong powers of criticism reexamined, BILL! You’re DEF NOT a music critic.
ReplyI love hearing the slow roll clapping.
ReplyI picture the leftists in the audience, hearing an ACTUAL liberal, looking to one another to see if it’s alright to clap.
I laughed, quite a bit more than i did at colbert, who was both wrong and unfunny.
ReplyActually good jokes, meritocracy!
I got a small participation trophy as a kid and watched as my better teammates got the big ones for actually playing well. We’re not stupid as a result.
ReplyWhen you give me the same number of Olympic gold medals as Usain Bolt, that’s when systemic speedism is over and equality of outcomes is achieved.
ReplyGlad I didn’t and sounds like another lie and because of HATE SPEWED BY FAKE and evil actions? Are you or just another’s illusion?
ReplyLOL and then they are forced to get into debt into crooked college schemes.
ReplySo glad I never left the late-60’s /early-70’s. That’s music with a message, talent, and soul. With rare exception, everything “produced” since the 90’s is audible fkn dysentery.
ReplyPSA: Kim K got married to her rich husband THEN had kids with him. She also brought her own money into the relationship and is fairly lowkey in the media. Imagine a generation of women outdone in life by a “sexually liberal” woman.
ReplyHilarious that Bill and his audience don’t realize that they are in fact responsible for all of this
ReplyI love redpilled Bill Maher
Replyobvious controlled opposition. talking about the music industry but not talking about real matters like who is getting all the benefits.
Replythis is what he campaigned for for years. he made his bed and should sleep in it.
Like Rome. Western culture is on its last legs. China will inevitably become the new power with the most influence globally.
ReplyMaher is becoming increasingly…libertarian? Be funny if he got canceled by HBO doubt it…
ReplyLol, careful Bill, one more mention of meritocracy or other “evil white construct” and socialists will start calling you reactionary far-right or something
ReplyBill is the best of the liberals, apart from Tulsi Gabbard.
ReplyStrange how I’m subscribed to this channel, yet never ever see youtube bringing me here………..
ReplyBill Maher might replace Sean Hannity on Fox News one day with this talk.
ReplyThe music industry has never, and will never work as a meritocracy. The idea that all of the ‘talented’ musicians will rise to the top, is delusional. The industry moguls will only fill their quotas, to the exclusion of more talent than they can handle/exploit. “Making it” in the music industry has always been a matter of being in the ‘right’ place, at the ‘right’ time. That doesn’t mean that the most recognised and rewarded stars aren’t talented, any more than it means that they are. It’s just that those talented musicians were also gifted with the appropriate amount of luck, in order to be where they are. Just because a musician is brought to our attention, doesn’t necessarily mean that they are the greatest in their craft. What it means is that a record company has invested a huge amount of money into making sure that you hear/see them. Without the considerable power of a major record label, it is highly unlikely that, irrespective of the level of talent of an artist, that they will be heard by the majority of the record buying public. Radio stations the world over, are influenced to a colossal extent, by the record labels. It is simply a symbiosis between corporate machines. Of course, there will always be minor exceptions to this, but being heard, at a time when an A and R executive can ‘use’ that artist, is every bit as important as rehearsing for the prerequisite 10,000 hours to acquire the appropriate level of talent and skill. To infer otherwise, is ridiculous. Crap will always be crap. But to say that success is conferred upon only the most deserving, is not only uninformed, but demeaning to the innumerable talented, and driven artists, who never got that break. And I am bitterly disappointed in someone so “socially aware”, who would espouse as much.
ReplyBILL YOU SUCK
ReplyNormally love your show Bill and often I agree with you, but the grammy comparison doesn’t add up. Winning Grammys doesn’t have anything to do with talent. Big Record Labels push their product by influencing radiostations, streaming services and, by doing so, the charts. With it they created a continuous loop of drap. A better comparison would be wealthy parents bribing schools to give their kids higher grades. And in a way isn’t that what is happening and creates these spoiled middle class brats? Musicians outside this “top” really aren’t spoiled and untalented. They work their butts of to do what they do best: making great music (which often is being “parazitised” on by “stars”. Taylor Swift’s last Grammy winning album was completely written by a guy from the band The National. The National made great, critically acclaimed, albums. But non of them gave him the success as with one Taylor Swift record. And there are multiple other examples)
ReplySo Bill how do those vapid people get so famous ?
ReplyRegarding the US: Bill Maher is the last bastion of sanity on corporate mainstream television. When he goes, there is no-one left. Literally.
ReplyWell said
ReplyHe simplifies it far too much, one only need listen to unknown singers on youtube to know that thousand DO have the same talent as those that sell the most records, they just don’t have the media machine behind them. To claim that all singers today have supreme talent is ludicrous, some of terrible and some only sell an image, which has been going on for a hundred years. No problem with calling out trophies for everyone, that is dumb, but at least compare apples to apples, not apples to grapes.
ReplyWell he doesn’t know much about the problem..
ReplyMost of todays mainstream artist are actually very bad but in the othet hand they are very beautiful and pretty.. put a little autotune on it and then there is the “good music.”
The only reason we can even have these battle’s of dogma and free thought is because of those who stand on that wall
ReplyThank you Bill, I never thought I could stand 6 minutes of you again, but you proved me wrong.
ReplyWe call the trophies for everyone crowd Democrats
ReplyAlgorithms, Bill, algorithms! Algorithms push you up too on the feed. If you recognise it in political content, why not recognise it entertainment.
ReplyWay behind the curve. Bit late for all this
ReplyYou’re trash Bill.
ReplyEquity is Marxist poison.
ReplyLook at prices law. This explains a lot and why equity fails.
ReplyA small percentage of people will create the largest amount of production in any given industry.
Music, acting, software, technological advancement, working in a company, etc. only a handful of people produce about half of the productivity.
Bill Maher becoming a Conservatarian like the rest of us sane and rational human beings – but only after wokeness turned on him and he got burned by the Left.
ReplyIt seems very disingenuous for Bill to say young people are fame seekers and all want to be on social media while hosting his own show that in a clip on YouTube. It’s not that there is anything unusual about young people today. The wold has changed and even 60+ year old men with well established television personalities are on social media to get more views. Why are you mad that some teenagers want to do the same?
ReplyThere are many conservatives that are too stupid to realise they are conservatives so they vote Democrat.
Many blacks and Latinos have conservative values but vote Democrat.
This is the main reason why the #walkaway movement is being attacked by the left.
Trust me, Bill Maher has NOT realised he’s a conservative yet.
ReplyFuck you youtube, take me off of AUTOPLAY!
ReplyI am astonished, I never thought I would applaud this man!
ReplyHow many times have any of you been pressured to hear your co workers crappy band? That’s the point here.
ReplyFinally! He said something I agree with
ReplyThe part about music was very ignorant.
ReplyWorld has lost it’s dignity, values, boundaries, respect. GROW UP…..lol. Love you Bill;-)
ReplyThat was really good
ReplyI can’t believe I agree with Bill on this.
ReplyAre the “influencers” are women/girls as is their audience. Nuff said!
ReplyBill is slowly getting Red Pill 😉
ReplyBill Maher=classic liberal
ReplyHe is making fun and criticised is own audience and the clueless democrats are laughing and appreciating !!! Brainless leftists
ReplyNew rule: Mahar becomes a conservative too late to use his platform to try to avoid what’s coming.
ReplyIf I do the same thing as someone else, I actually do expect the same outcome.
ReplyMaybe the only time I say “Here, Here” to anything Bill says or thinks lol so ” HERE! HERE!!”
ReplyIt’s true that I can’t make good music, I’m not good at all to make music that people like, I know that. And I only have 2 listeners per months, I’m fine with that. But he says that small artists doesn’t have listeners because they suck. And that is far from the truth. I have listened to thousands of small artists during they years on Reverbnation. And some were so good that it was crazy. True 50% sucked. but 10% of them sounded so fucking good. And I am a person that loves hit songs on radio. And that small artists that still ain’t famous. I’m not good, but they truly were very good.
ReplyAt least 10 years too late for this message Bill and your stupid audience won’t understand it.
Reply*Woke tenet
Reply“Speaking of which…” xd that was excellent
ReplyI can’t comprehend Maher’s inane babbling. On one hand he’s saying that those succesful are succesful because they add value to the world. On the other hand he’s whining about the Kardashians because they make millions sitting on their ass. Which is it. Do those that make billions enrich and enlighten the world. Or is the system set up to promote superficial selfindulgent sociopaths.
ReplyAre you a millionaire because you have smart things to say, or are you being payed millions while an audience of idolworshipping sycophants cheer every boringly stupid sentence you utter into the ether. You can’t have it both ways. The funniest part is his comment about reality, this brunch neoliberal whos like to hear himself talk on his latenight show talks about reality. That’s the best joke he ever told.
Too little too late buddy. You could have spoken out years ago.
ReplyWhen the shit hits the fan. you are going to tried with the rest of the deep state. Can you say Rico Act.
ReplyA frame of mind perpetuated by your leftist buddies… seems you were wuite silent in these regards while Trump was in office… how convenient more in favor of continuing the hate of putting American citizens first.
ReplyBe careful… you starting to sound like a republican….
ReplyWelcome back bill
ReplyI’m not mad, I only ever wanted 1000 subs, so I could stream. That’s it. Not for fame, for a hand up, because most people don’t share phone numbers…
ReplyAt this point I am not sure that JFK or even John Lennon would be voting for Democrats! The Democrat Party is the party of the upper class, the more war party, the big banker party, the party of slavery and genocide from the standpoint their constituency makes a huge living off the CCP! Even the Biden family is paid by the CCP! They failed to bring the CCP to Democracy so instead the Democrat Party looks more like the CCP … razor wire and all!!
ReplyIm really starting to love Bill as a Right wing
Reply6:15 did Hilton get (—) on her left eye?
ReplyElongate the future of meme coins @t
ReplyBill your a has been gas bag. Now your complaining about the world in which you helped create.
ReplyI agree FOK THE RICH AND FAMOUS if they don’t contribute to the society of common folk !
ReplyIn spite of all that, Paris Hilton was refused entry to the Berghain club.
ReplyMeritocracy isn’t a small group pushed by a small minority of billionaires to push shitty music for stupid people.
ReplyThe left is makin bill look more like mike rowe these days.
ReplyI 100% agree with a man who I generally disagree with.
ReplyWho reads Rolling Stone?
ReplyGod I hate Bill’s audience so much. They are the exact kinds of people he makes fun of.
ReplyWhere can i watch the whole show?
ReplyBill i think you and Trump have much more in common than you think… judging people on what’s in their head rather by their skin color, having equal opportunities, meritocracy, free market etc… suddenly when Trump’s out of the picture you’re starting to get out of your delusion bubble
Replypeople listening to music they like? now thats a problem
ReplyBill, are you waking up finally??? It is about time!!
Reply— Tore down the gatekeepers, huh? Could have fooled me. Rest of it I largely agree with. EDIT: Well, second thought, tore down, ok, but only if your a progressive liberal lemming shit of a human being.
ReplyStreaming does have ‘gatekeepers’. The tracks people ‘discover’ or autoplay after their selection are chosen for them to discover (by employees of streaming services with connections to labels). If you or your team have a contact at Spotify (and you’re talented) they can make you a money. Everyone in the industry knows this very well. Certainly many people working on your show know this and (if you didn’t know already) I’m sure they told you so before this taped. Please, you’re too smart and too essential to stoop like this.
ReplyEquality of outcomes equals equity. Equity sounds like a nice word. It is not. It is communism. I don’t know much about Maher, but I suspect he is loathe to attack the dems today for being communists. America is a country that has struggled for, and largely attained equality of OPPORTUNITY.
ReplyMaher is starting to sound like a Republican!
ReplyWHAT REALITY DID I JUST STUMBLE INTO???? Bill Maher sounds like my conservative dad? Say it ain’t so Bill, say it ain’t so! LOL!!!!!
ReplyThe Bill Maher I used to know, great stuff!
Replysomeones reading jordan peterson
ReplyNatural selection, its normal, got that spoilt leftie fool
ReplyWith regard to music, I could argue that perhaps the music recommendations on streaming platforms favor established names
ReplyWow actually something from Maher that resembles reality.
ReplyBill Maher is a twelve year-old in a suit, dressed up as a man acting like a baby in a high-chair.
ReplyThere was only one kid who didn’t get Poaitive Pony award at my daughter’s grade school. Dean… he eventually came around. Lol.
ReplyBill, you’re only about 20 years too late.
ReplyDid he actually claim we were in a meritocracy and then go on proving that statement wrong?
ReplyBill is such a putz!
ReplyThe fake laughs and faces made by his two guests are so creepy. These shows and the illusion they create are so eery.
ReplyAm I agreeing with Bill Maher? Or is he agreeing with me to become relevant again?
ReplyBill Mahar is so close to being red pilled. It is like he took half of a red pill. He still talks of privilege and whites in a negative light. The Grammy’s were not meritocracy. This year it was about pandering to blacks and whites suck. At least he is gradually realizing the truth.
ReplyYou’ve lost your edge, Bill. Starting to sound a bit like John Stossel. That is: low brow. Anyone who ever posted anything online knows that it is buried, lost, without heavy promotion. This video was promoted, put in my face, so it was seen.
ReplyNice to see him finally waking up.
ReplyGet em bill!!!
ReplyStarting to sound like the “old” Bill Maher…it’s a good thing.
ReplySomeone tell bill its too late to switch sides.
ReplyYa know…when he’s right…he’s right!!
ReplyI have to disagree with Bill on one thing in this so far (will edit as I go if needed)
ReplyI can PROMISE you a good chunk of kids these days in the US don’t got over bloated self love, instead our ass’s got depression
Now replace “music” with “income” and everyone would be booing.
ReplyThanks for pointing out the obvious!
ReplyYou’re about 10 years late to the party, Bill, but welcome nonetheless. Critical Race Theory and Identity politics are behind what you’re describing.
ReplyI played sports off and on through school. I was exactly “pretty good” and once got a trophy despite losing more than half our games. Look around and you might find it on the side of Interstate 40.
Edit: To clarify, this isn’t an abuse story. I threw that cheap plastic shit out the window.
ReplyShould we let Bill know he is a conservative.
ReplyMeritocracy only sounds like it should elevate the best; like every all against all competitive heirrchy it only floats the most corrupt to the top of the power pyramid scheme. Enjoy your skinner box, Maher.
Replyvery strong
ReplyWelcome to the conversation!
ReplyHA HA HA HA Bill Maher is so funny. Such hot takes such as “I don’t feel bad for Paris hilton” and “millennial want to be famous” where does he come up with this stuff
ReplyGoogle, Pareto Distribution…
Replythis reptile is a shiney turd !
ReplyLOL all the folks he lampoon are all Democrats…
ReplyAbsolutely love Bill Maher but no. There are so many amazing musicians who never get the public recognition they deserve. And many who don’t really care because they are in it for the love of the music. Are there lots of bad ones too? Sure. But there are so many brilliant musicians who will never be famous for whatever reason- they’re lousy business people, they’re in a competitive field where it’s nearly impossible to get through, they have to hold down a day job because they have a family, whatever. There are lots of great, talented musicians who are famous (and lousy ones too). Fame does not equate to brilliance.
My dad was a prodigy classical and jazz pianist who spent his life as a piano teacher and playing in jazz bands in the 40s, 50s, and 60s. No one outside those circles knew his name but he played with some of the great bands as a stand in. My family has jazz roots that go all the way back to the 30s with my grandfather. He even named my dad after a jazz artist who was his close friend. As a pianist my dad is the best I have ever seen and I have seen a lot. He “did” music better than anyone. He played in jazz bands on the beach into his 70s. The night he died, he played his regular gig as a pianist in a Chinese restaurant, then went home and passed in his sleep at the age of 75. He probably did not give one rip about being famous as long as he was happy and he could play and enjoy a few (and a few more) drinks.
I know personally several jazz guitarists at that level – they are professional, but they play with bands, aren’t famous, don’t care, because they live and breathe the music and that’s all that matters to them. Music is a business and that business has to be marketed. Like my dad, they wouldn’t know a marketing plan if it flew through the window and knocked them right over.
I would rather stick pencils in my eyes than listen to Cardi B.
ReplyI’ve enjoyed a lot of Maher’s comments in the past, but don’t agree with him here. So the Rolling Stones thinks the music industry isn’t inclusive enough. So what? If voting on who “good artists” are were opened up to more people actually listening to and buying or downloading music, maybe the RS is right that the award results would look differently. I don’t see that related to entitlement-ism.
And shame on you, Maher, for presuming to know what “good [music]” is. Democratize taste. Even though I don’t like a lot of modern music despite being a young woman, I don’t think I and people like me should hold a monopoly on what constitutes “good music” (or art…). Let the majority decide what they like the most, not gate-keepers of artistic tastes.
ReplyWelcome to the Republican Party Mr. Maher….. Only 15 years behind the rest of us!!!!!
ReplyMaher made a career out of complaining about the very things he supports.
ReplyIt’s like the arsonist who starts building fires because he wants the overtime as a firefighter.
You honestly believe this is not staged? The mission has been fulfilled by the useful idiots: wokeratti, antifa etc, time for new normal one party rule and turn ‘normies’ against them.. i know i know i should wear tinfoil hat and sit in flat earth corner…cause you know conspiracy theories 🙂
ReplyAnd does not the same apply to every aspect of this world???
ReplyBill a conservative??
ReplyDon’t fall for this he’s one of the reasons why things are the way they are.
ReplySorry not sorry
ReplyRead A Theory of Justice by John Rawls
ReplyWeird how Bill conveniently forgot that the success of a song depends a lot on marketing and who does he think is behind the songs that get promoted the most? SMH. I have a friend who is a musician outside of his day job and the music his band makes is unbelievably beautiful and incredibly creative. Don’t tell me that his small Spotify following contrasted with the “popularity” of formulaic, crass “music” is due to “meritocracy”. GTFOH!
ReplyBill Maher the new conservative
ReplyHey. Don’t put down Paris Hilton like that. I’ve seen her videos, and she’s a champion. Better than a pone star.
ReplyWoke up Bill. All the major late night talk shows are white ! Some of you need to be replaced due to race or
Replygender(s) ! These radicalized censors have become masters at manipulating their dubious adherents.
Bill, you shake hands with the people who make these emotional policies. Make up your mind and stop changing lanes. Your party is laughing at themselves.
ReplyWeird thing is….Bill voted for this philosophy. And will continue to do so.
ReplyIt’s not only Meritocracy, it’s the Pareto Principle – the cream rises to the top – in ALL sectors. Marxism DOES NOT WORK. Stop supporting it. It is nothing more than on Open-Source plan for dictators; look at how many different cultures have fallen to it and still the same result – Totalitarianism. 150+ MILLION MURDERED… and still dumb enough to make the State responsible for our ills. Sheer stupidity.
ReplyGet back to an understanding of the Bill of Rights.
BTS should have gotten a Grammy
ReplyWell Bill, you can’t complain now that the b.s. you supported with the liberal loons is now something the irks you. Tough homie.
ReplyI am black and better at most things than most other people. At my left wing college I was told by white people I was racist because I did not hold myself back for other black people. I also release music on streaming services. It is more than good music, it takes promotion and it has taken me five years to .earn how to produce my own music. I still make money off of if even though the production sucks. Also many of those 40,000 tracks a day are music that has been done years ago and has not been released. Most people also stream what is on the radio and what happens to be the current trend. Nothing new about that. It’s very hard to write a hit song but most musicians just hope to fit a niche. It’s also not like Rolling Stone really searches for new music. I never listened to popular music so I don’t write that sort of music. I am also gonna abandon my current band for a while and release a country album next year cause I lean towards singer songwriter music. I do it for myself. I am just happy I can get my music out there. That’s a gift. Most of my friends are also really critically acclaimed musicians so I have been really embarrassed by my music until this next album I am releasing. I don’t need to be super popular. I think ma h people these days release music as an elaborate hobby. It’s great we can do that.
ReplyOk!
ReplyEveryone in the audience are
Replycomplete dolts.
5:05 Paris Hilton is doing a bunch of great work shutting down “troubled teen industry” schools and I have great respect for her because of it.
ReplyBill Maher should read Antifa Unmasked
ReplyYou don’t need to regret your jokes on Paris Hilton
ReplyLefties: Meritocracy must die with the Patriarchy!
ReplyI generally enjoy your show and comments. After this segment I’m thinking about never watching your material again. The music industry is a documentable monopoly on all levels, they run drugs and money launder so that there is no way on earth that the small guy could compete. Then they make deals with other business which further degrade and erode artists rights and livihoods, you know it’s a a joke. Most of the top acts have ended up suing their label’s.Prince wrote SLAVE on his face. MJ say they were going to kill him. Many thousands of artists die of drugs because they are drug mules in the first place for this hellish industry. In this case, since you are in California and know how the sausage factory really works (corporate agendas), you are just plain lying about everything and have lost a lot of integrity as a human being. Just search music industry and drugs, music industry and payola, music industry and money laundering…it changes every year though…it gets worse and more sophisticated. Actually the only thing I got out of this was the honest article about the subject. It’s not ok to screw people over Bill, especially as an entertainer you should appreciate the space we come from to make amusement for others as our pastime and for very few “career”, that should not be exploited. Even when a musicians is actually successful in that industry, it’s because they work for the machine and no longer to serve music, so it’s not success no matter how many awards and billions they throw at it. I think really it all came to a grinding halt when tech destroyed the CD market. The music took a huge nose dive because talented people couldn’t make a living on the talent side, so only the crooks remained. That is why you have Wet Ass Pussy in your playlist you turd.
Replyeverything on the radio and receiving grammies are trash….its not a meritocracy its all brand pushing of low-talent/low-skill hacks.
Replymaher is still fucking hilarious.
ReplyThere is great inequality of outcome from within a single family’s sons and daughters. Can we base that on racism as well?
ReplyLet the weak and feeble be taught and encouraged to become more so. This simply reduces the competition for my children who will steamroll up, over, and through these snowflakes. News Flash parents: Life isn’t fair. It never was and never will be. Your job is to show your children how to stand up and fight for what they believe in, fight for what they want to be in this short life. Teaching them that they deserve ANYTHING from this world without working hard for it (and even that isn’t a guarantee by any means) is the very worst thing you can put into a child’s mind. You are better off not teaching them anything than this toxic, self-defeating bullshit.
ReplyLeft has gone so out of their minds, Bill is slowly getting red pilled day by day.
ReplyI mean, if you think the heavily corporatized music industry where five companies effectively decide what music is marketable to the public and why all music essentially sounds the same as a result is a true reflection of actual taste, I’ve got news for you buddy lol.
ReplyJordan Peterson 101.
ReplyThe thoughtless broccoli contrarily stir because microwave ultrascructurally inform before a quiet panda. psychotic, mammoth graphic
ReplyLol I agree in general but still im so fed up with most popular songs that I’m often opened to listen to new things
ReplyHow does one justify the republican goal of even arming our youth?.Is it necessary to teach kids how to identify, load and use firearms? I draw the line at introduction to mortars !! I think
ReplyThe shit he’s championed has helped create this mess. Maher champions what he thinks is popular . Smart guy, he’s figured out how to play the crowd for profit. That’s fine for entertainment but only as long as people realize it’s just entertainment. He has no opinion of his own.
ReplyAnd who was the one guy that FINALLY came along that stood up to this cancer?
ReplyYa nailed it!!!
ReplyAnd now he sings a different song…, where were you couple of years ago, it’s too late to start swinging now after the fight is over..
ReplyWhat if I just record a song, put it on YouTube, Rumble, Spotify, Tictok, or other such platform, for anyone to watch/listen to, and don’t give a damn how many do? If you like my stuff, fine. If not you can go watch Queen in drag with Freddy Mercury pushing a vacuum cleaner!
ReplyBill, where was this you the last 4 years? I love this, but confused why only now….since talking to Jordan?
ReplyIs the Bill O’Rielly? Lol,
ReplyI disagree with the artist’s opinion. It’s all money. Pandora and spotify are the new radio djs. Rich artist pays them to alter the algorithm to have their songs play more than the little guy. You are wrong that most of the artists suck. There are many talented non popular artists. But just like in any industry, money gets you to the front of the line. And that is why I disagree with you.
ReplyA little late to the party, Bill. I guess TDS blinded him for 4 years.
Replydue I can;t stand you, but you have a good point, and I have to agree with you,,
ReplyBill Maher has signs of rational thinking from time to time.
ReplyPartly why I’ll still tune in.
Bill Maher. You realize the loser mentality brought about by your left wing bent, but are never willing to take accountability for it. *golf clap* cognitive dissonance 101
ReplyThe problem with your laius is that the most talented artists are not the most listened to. In fact, it is the opposite.
ReplyWhy does it seem Bill is connecting to me as of late!
ReplyThanks, Bill. Very much appreciated, your show.
ReplyI wonder how many trophies Bill I got as a kid
ReplyI think using the music industry as an example of a meritocracy is loose at best. You telling me Cardi B has more musical capability than Chick Corea? She sure as hell has more listens to any of her music than Chicks, but that doesn’t really mean shit when it comes to talent. I agree with the premise; equality of outcomes is horrendous, but use a better example than the music industry, please! Our industry is rammed with bankrolled musicians and corporate interests; it’s almost never been about merit.
ReplyWell said Bill, is Bill starting to find the political middle ground? The reasonable way of thinking, that treats people like dumb slaves
Yeah, the far left is evil, so is the far right…
But the far right isn’t active doing anything
The far left are active, burning, beating and murdering
Gina carano is fantastic, she’s no Nazi, but this woman on this show… shes a racist bigot 100%
ReplyThis is called Pareto Distribution. It happens in all human activity that develops around creativity. This is more a rule of nature than just meritocracy. It’s foolish to fight against it or try to level it.
Reply2800 PEOPLED DISLIKED THIS BECAUSE………Well you know the answer
ReplyThis guy supports all the lies used by democrats to be in power and once in power they continue to lie to the American citizen,
ReplyCannot stand him anymore
When did Bill Maher start making sense? I think I have to start watching his show to check him out.
ReplyBills becoming bitter towards humanity
ReplyThe soft elizabeth ultrastructually scream because bibliography noticeably reject around a shrill adjustment. fluttering, righteous week
ReplyThis man will save society.
ReplyWow bunch of one liners, then clap
ReplyNew rule:
NAZIs like Heidi Heitkamp who call other people NAZIs get dipped in Sterno, lit on fire, and tossed out of a helicopter.
ReplyHeidi Heitkamp is a clown. She called Gina Carano of a nazi with absolutely no evidence and now I think Gina is suing her. I hope to god Gina wins.
ReplySounds like you did learn something from Jordan Peterson .
ReplyBill sounding more conservative with age. Glad that he is talking sense to the left, at least they will tune him in. Won’t surprise me if he gets replaced soon by the left agenda…
Replywait… none of thos people were from the 90s, but yeah lol
Reply“totally deluded and unearned belief in their charm, brains and talent” that sounds like you Bill LOL
Reply“totally deluded and unearned belief in their charm, brains and talent” that sounds like you Bill LOL
Replywho in THE hell is this Maher guy? i feel like i’m back in the 90’s again…when he was funny and relevant…and do these liberals know he’s making fun of ALL OF THEM???
ReplyEquality of outcome is bigoted, according to the left.
ReplyGiving awards based on merit is racist and sexist. Giving black women awards for being black women is anti-racist and anti-sexist.
ReplyWelcome to the left’s utopia.
“wHiTe PriViLeGe” doesn’t exist.
ReplyIt’s a leftist anti-white conspiracy theory.
I dunno Bill, I like what you are saying but I still suspect you are a commie.
ReplyBill mahers nose keeps growing
Replydisgusting people
Replythis is news ……lol
ReplyEquity, I have another word for it: Communism.
ReplyThat’s because that’s what it is, a euphemism for communism.
They’re trying to slip it under the rug.
It’s time to label people racist based on their political beliefs not their words. If you are against equity and equality of outcome, you are a racist.
ReplyBill Marr hates everything about the left but claims to be one. Bill swap sides and life will be easier
ReplyAt his acerbic best
ReplyThere’s fucking people out there that think this guy is conservative… no, he’s just stayed where he is, everyone else is moving the line.
ReplyHonestly can’t stand Bill Maher by and large, but thg he last couple years he’s been seeming to wake tf up from the “woke” stupor HBO stuffed him into.
ReplyThe only thing missing in this logic is the fact that there is gate keeping in streaming. The services push those backed by big companies
ReplyThe music industry can turn any semi talented artist into a star. The music industry is watered down more than ever with people that sound the same. Originality is almost dead now.
ReplyNow let’s see him push that message outside music and watch him get eaten alive. LOL! Equality of opportunity is not equality of outcome.
Replyonce he said :white priv,….: “ok imma see my way out”.
ReplyAlways thought this guy was a left-wing loon. I guess I was wrong. He is just a sensible person who has a left leaning bias.
ReplyEquality of outcome is precisely what people mean every time they throw the word ‘equity’ around. A pretty word for a bullshit concept with horrendous consequences.
ReplyThere is no equality of outcome…..FACTS. If you get to sit on air, and I get shoved off, from brutality and lies, and everyone saying I don’t believe in democracy, when in fact I do, where is the equality of outcome….Read Cohen’s book page 174, and tell me my sticking up for mothers and children and our little girls was treated with anything but disdain. Carolyn from Canada truly tired of the lies and bullshit.
ReplySorry, but this interpretation of the Rolling stones article just totally misses the point.
ReplyThe fact that a small fraction of all music gets most of the attention whereas the rest is ignored of the public is obviously not a matter of quality but a problem of exposure. Of course, the more a song is played, the more likely it is to be suggested to other listeners. It’s a snowballing effect that has nothing to do with quality -and it is not new either. I sincerely hope that “Despacito” or the “Macarena” are noone’s favorite songs… yet, they were the most listened tracks of their time, regardless their quality or the type of technology used to play them.
The point of that kind of observation, I think, is realizing that there is so much more great music that we don’t know about just because the industry streamlines what they want to show. Then, when you enter YouTube or whatever, instead of looking for the song that you can hear all around you, just look for something obscure that you like and let the algorith find similar stuff. We all have discovered countless great albums that way–and most of them get much fewer views than they deserve…
Bill how conservative of you. You sound like a Republican… good job.
ReplyThen. Explain Milli Villi and every other version.
ReplyHe sounds like Shapiro. I kinda like it.
ReplyThe more things stay the same…the less it changes. – Spinal Tap
ReplyNo–you’re wrong to base lack of success in music due to producing “bad music.” That’s just too black and white. Look at Miley Cyrus; do you think she’d have become as famous if her dad weren’t already a famous singer; do you think she’d have gotten into Disney? What about Willow Smith with her hit song “Whip my hair back and forth”? And then, how about Rebecca Black who went viral and made another song despite having bad music.
ReplyYour paradigm is far too simplistic; it’s just a way to bash on people who are already struggling while rewarding rich overlords for their “meritocracy,” nevermind that those most “successful” in society already were ahead of the game from birth.
Has Bill even listen to modern pop music. Dose he really think Cardi B’s Wet Ass Pussy is as good as Freddie Mercury’s Bohemian Rhapsody. I overall agree with the point. But the Music Industry as it is now. Is hardly a meritocracy. Its about what pretty face they can market. With Autotune you don’t even have to be good at singing.
ReplyEquality of outcome (“equity”) appeals to the younger generation because they grew up coddled by society (technology, parents, schools, government), so they lack the grit and skills to make it in the real world.
ReplyFuck YouTube! Rumble is awesome! No censorship!
ReplyAm I that only one who wants to discuss that the people in the audience applauding so agreeably, ARE THE VERY LITTLE S@&$S THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED?!?!?!?
Reply“Welcome to the party pal!”
– John McClane
ReplyBill Maher stubles upon what conservatives have been saying for decades.
ReplyBill’s a little late to the common sense dance! For many years he helped usher in this “politically correct” BS!
ReplyEquality of outcomes for everyone else.
ReplyBrilliant
ReplyCompletely disagree here, the top artists are NOT the “good ones”. I would argue the exact opposite.
ReplyI’m in a band. We’re on Spotify. We have 16 monthly listeners. At least one of them is probably me.
ReplyOh how cute, he’s trying to get his moderates back after going on a 4 year tirade. Hear that everyone, Mr. “I pray for a recession” is not tired of the atmosphere he contributed to building.
ReplyWow! I thought I had good musical tastes but if those performers on the Grammys are what passes for good then i need to check myself for real. They effin suck!
Reply2,800 people who hated this truth? Lol and double lol.
ReplyWho gave those kids the trophies? Emotionally damaged boomers who grew up in the greatest economy the world has ever seen.
ReplyGood start, Bill. Please apply the same logic to the train wreck of policies coming out of the current administration.
ReplyWelcome bill to the progressive Paradise you’ve been whining for. Now that it’s here how do you feel?
ReplyGood to see that Bill maher is still a true liberal.
ReplyIt’s hilarious to me that Bill freaking Maher who was once considered pretty hard left is now into the center/center-right field of the discourse.
ReplySo….he’s saying grammy award winners..outside of special categories such as jazz…are better artists. Yeah Bill…you have shitty taste. Essentially you’re saying the big mac equivalent of music is better than everything else.
ReplyIncoherent. First he says that, essentially, things are popular because they’re the best. Which is nonsense because that would mean, for example, that the finest cuisine ever created is McDonald’s and the greatest single of all time would have to be Lil Nas X’s “Old Town Road,” featuring Billy Ray Cyprus, which holds the record for the longest stretch at No. 1 with 19 weeks. Not even Billy Ray Cyrus thinks that.
But not content with this obvious idiocy, Bill then goes on to contradict himself completely by saying the most popular people (Kylie Jenner is his main example) are in fact not the best but the worst. I’m no fan of slebs (I had to Google Kylie Jenner ffs) but this is abject from Bill. Two ‘arguments’ that not only don’t make sense on their own merits but that flatly contradict each other. You can either believe one or the other (although you’d be wrong to) but it’s logically impossible to believe both.
Man I remember when Bill used to be smart *and* funny. He’s neither now.
Reply“Equality of Outcomes” refers to economic and financial equality, which simply makes sense from a societal point of view. But of course pot-smoking GOPer assholes like Bill Maher will immediately jump on the Harrison Bergeron bandwagon to distract and distort from the real issue.
ReplyWho’s the dumb laughing ginger?
ReplyCareful Bill, you’re sounding A LOT like a Conservative!
Replyjust come all the way right buddy
ReplySince when is this guy a conservative?!?!
Replyanother boring, uninteresting take Bill. if you weren’t on a major network, and artificially propped up, you’d be less popular than Stephen Crowder, and you are actually starting to sound like Ben Shapiro. it’s sad because I remember a time when u actually said controversial things, and put your balls on the line. Now you sound like the conservative guest on MSNBC, and you still think you’re relevant.
Replysorry to break it to you guys, but equality of outcomes is an official policy of the Democratic party 🙂
ReplyBill Maher says like it is. I don’t miss George Carlin thanks to Bill.
ReplyWho are the 2.8k that dislike this??
ReplyThis atheist exposed the leftists complete HYPOCRISY of their ideology
Reply72% of gen z are afraid of real work.
ReplyConservatives have been saying this for years..
ReplyThe Grammys and music industry was a very bad example for whatever he was trying to say
ReplyNot ‘the good ones’ just the popular ones and that doesn’t mean they are of good quality (diluted?) … I’M NOT REFERRING TO THE FACT THAT THE COMMON DENOMINATOR OF FANS ARE DELUDED , IT’S THE MOST POPULAR POP MUSIC IS DILUTED …
ReplyI remember Bill complaining about all the right-wing nuts…oh how the tables have turned..
ReplyBruh, the seals are clapping at themselves lmao
ReplyI used to be a liberal. I still am and just like Bill. But I am forced to vote right in my country cause the left has just gone bonkers and well I live in a democracy so I know that even if the right is in power they can’t do shit to the real “liberal” values like take away our freedom. Trump was called a fascist tell me what freedom did he take away. In My country Modi is called a fascist. Yes they are conservative there was a time when the Political party members of the current PM that I voted for used to want to Ban Valentines day. That time they were not in power. Today the right is in power but there is not such thing on valentine’s day. If anyone tries to stop couples on Valentine’s day they will get arrested.
ReplyYou can’t its a violation of human rights. When the same party came to power in one of the states the CM(Like a senator) started a Special task force to fight eve teasing.
Then some cops in this task force arrested many couples who used to sit in parks and then called their parents and did all that stuff. Then the CM a saffron clad right wing Sadhu suspended them and made it clear that lovers are not to be disturbed unless the girl is against her will. That can be found by observing the couple from far and not going to them and asking them who they or if she is fine.
Thats democracy. for you. The left in my country want Muslim immigrants to come in to increase the muslim vote bank just like in USA they want mexicans and African and middle eastern muslims. We a developing country don’t have a refugee police so they just cross the border illegally.
I think liberals can live under a conservative party in a democracy atleast the country is safe. But you can’t let the liberals rule the current liberal/left has gone bonkers and they have collluded with the “right” yes the communists were the right actually because of the ‘fascism” in some countries and so were muslims they were the extreme right in thier countries because of their fasisct laws and the way they treat gays and woman.
Bill, I agree with you on something? What is happening to the world. Lol.
ReplyHis argument is that the artists that sell the most make the best music…I think everyone knows that’s BS
ReplyA simple, overlooked point… Streaming services have incentivized shit music. When physical sales was king, bands came and left so much faster. The shit bands never sold and dissolved because the $ wasn’t there. Profit, at one time, was the litmus paper for and band. $ = viability. There is,no such thing as a starving artist anymore.
ReplyBill took the red pill and there is no coming back. There is no more left or right, liberal or conservative, it’s reason and common sense against the SJW PC lunacy. This lady in the studio is the crazy one.
ReplyI don’t completely agree with Bill here about “the walls” having been torn down, because even though artists have “a chance” to be heard, the “top artists” are still mostly the ones the masses have been told about or exposed to through some “media outlet” such as radio or TV.
ReplyGee, Bill, where did you think this relentless movement to the left was going to end up? Or did you think that these people were going to stop somewhere short of Lenin?
ReplyNow, time to realise Trump was the more honest outcome.
ReplyWow that ginger would-be senator is pretty despicable. I guess when your an entitled failed democrat leader your are exempt from any liability of your words.
ReplyBill, a legend in his own mind.
Replyto the first thing:yeah, not how the world works bill. kids are not going around thinking that, and no one is saying that about fame either. a lot of great artists hardly get recognized…so not true either. There’s a lot of great artists out there, but what is hard is getting attention as an artist. I see bill keeps on being terrible. I didn’t think it was possible to get worse from what I saw the last time I saw him, but I guess I was wrong. Idiots keep on applauding dumb things bill says as they always do…that’s embarassing.
Replywell…theres lots of talent, its the marketing superiority that wins the gold, marketing and boobs
ReplyG Bill is so conservative nowadays I thought I was watching Fox News lol
ReplyMillions of lil.shits lmao
ReplyMillions of lil.shits lmao
ReplyI agree with about 15% of what he says. Meet the 1 in 6.
ReplyI like how the deluded fans of this show are clapping and cheering about what every conservative was being called a racist over the last 20 years…which is equality of opportunity is what matters, not equality of outcome. The critical race theorists literally call that racism. According to Joe Biden, Bill Maher is now officially Jim Crow on steroids. I guess better late than never, but certainly no “courage” points for Bill Maher on this one, this falls under the “duh, no shit” category.
Replyso sick of boomer moaning about how this generation was ruined by participation trophies as if they weren’t the ones protesting desegregation
ReplyVastly more people want to be music stars than there are chances to be such. That means the competition is very intense and most will be left out in the cold even most talented people. You have to be good AND Lucky. If one can’t accept that than one should try something else.
This is true for almost all the arts.
ReplyIs it not a bit ironic to say it’s not about opportunity, it’s about talent, then say Paris is what caused this culture of untalented people expecting to be famous? She and many others are famous despite lack of talent and because of privilege and chance (opportunities that don’t exist even for extremely talented people).
I don’t disagree about Paris. Paris did nothing noteworthy as an entertainer. But she and many others benefit from privilege to get where they are. I also don’t disagree many people think they should be famous when they are NOT talented.
But it is definitely incorrect to say music only gets popular because it’s good and that those performing it are the best. Only a small percentage of fame worthy people are blessed with the luck to make it big.
Same is often true for athletes. Different things happen… The teams they play on. Injury. The right scout at the right time. The mood of a coach or recruiter. It goes on and on.
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ReplyPrice’s law strikes again.
ReplyPareto distribution
ReplyMaybe in music but not in housing or wages
ReplyI still remember the medal I got for placing last at a Judo tournament in the 1990’s. At the time, I remember finding it odd and insulting to be receiving a medal. I got angry at the adults for 1) thinking I was an idiot and 2) lying to me. In Judo, size really does matter. I quit shortly afterwards.
ReplyBill Maher sounding more conservative than liberal. Sanity must be catching up with him. (Newsflash: real conservatives are more liberal than “liberals”). When you are a talented comedian and you work your fucking ass off for years and deserve your success, this inequality of outcomes bullshit pisses you off.
ReplyAnd to quote Clropatricks HOMETOWN and life aint no.fun with no teeth and no tongue…
ReplyThe audience is usually tepid during these unpleasant segments.
ReplyIt’s called the “Paretto Principle” – or the 80/20 rule… and then on tope of that you get the 80/20 rule again as you go from moderately successful, to ‘successful’, and then 80/20 again as you go to ‘very successful’, and then 80/20 again as you go to the extremely successful (stars), and finally you get the Beyonces’ (diva’s etc) which is the 20 on 20 on 20 on 20 on 20 on 20% – i.e. a very small minority are big wigs… and what of their songs… 20 on 20 and 20 on 20 on 20 on 20% and so on and so forth…
ReplyThe thing is, Paris Hilton has made millions of the dumb blonde routine, just like Bill has from his middle age stoner bit. So maybe not too dumb?
ReplyJesus where did the Bill from before go? I’m loving this guy lmao! Also, I don’t think he sounds conservative. I think he just sounds sane. Cons/Dems have both gone on to the rear end of their empty skulls and frankly at this point, its best to identify with neither.
ReplyThanks bill for finally waking up. Get em brother
ReplyEXAMPLE of the FAILURE OF EQUALITY OF OUTCOMES – I am teaching my last semester at a Minnesota university program designed to increase minority student success. The program was given over 15 million dollars, most students pay nothing, get free meals, transportation, free tutors, counselors, etc, and awoke culture warriors were hired to run the program. The problem was that many of the students in the program do not take advantage of all the very expensive help made available to them, make little to no effort, and the quality of their work is very poor. The University’s solution is to have abysmally low academic standards and to turn a blind eye to rampant cheating. Why? Because if we fail students, then we are only perpetuating institutionalized racism. This is the liberal version of progress.
Replyi’m VietNamese , i watch your videos every single day to learn English :))
ReplyI always agree with bill usually….but he is dead wrong…just because it is a hit song does not mean the song is any good…..people have no ears these days….u cannot compare todays songs to the era of the beatles, etc……if u dont get it, I have no time to explain it.
ReplyWell Bill I agree with you in theory, but your example is off. The Grammy’s award the Artists who have made the most money. These Artist have talent and have been selected because they can be packaged and sold to the public. Do you really think Frosted Flakes are better than the granola at the country store?
ReplyThe premise that anyone has listened to all the artists on Spotify is laughable. Have you noticed that when you open Spotify you see those same “great” artists? Why, because the record companies are promoting them, buying ads, putting them in your face. That’s who you see, that’s who TMZ talks about, that’s who is on the radio and that’s who you listen to.
The record companies have taken back the internet, anyone can release but you can’t be seen. But there are artists who will never get a Grammy who are talented and are putting out good music. To bad you’ll never hear them.
I can’t pinpoint when it happened but somewhere over the past few years Maher became conservative and “conservatives” became the devil.
Whatever you want to call him, I like what he’s saying.
ReplyBill Maher becomes more libertarian and Conservative the older he gets, love it!
ReplyWant a better life? Simple –
Reply1. If you live in a Black, Brown and Yellow country – your life will be better if you sneak into a White country.
2. If you live a White country, your life will be better if you keep these freeloading non-White intruders away.
Want a better life? Simple –
Reply1. If you live in a Black, Brown and Yellow country – your life will be better if you sneak into a White country.
2. If you live a White country, your life will be better if you keep such non-White freeloaders away.